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Dark Knight 05-29-2012 05:12 PM

Draft Profile: Dion Waiters
 
Currently slotted to go #8 in the draft, some scouts are comparing him to a Tyreke Evans/Dwyane Wade type player. Not on my top list of prospects, but it's hard to be disappointed coming out of the draft with a that has those kinds of comparisons.


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Strengths: Waiters' style of play reflects your prototypical combo-guard ... At 6'4 with a strong physical foundation, Waiters can play both on and off the ball throughout stretches of a game ... He's a scorer at heart, but his ability to create off the dribble results in open looks for teammates, which Waiters is capable of finding as a passer ... Always looking to get out in transition, he can change directions off the bounce, effectively absorb and deflect contact and finish at the rim ... Uses screens well off the dribble, recognizes when to hesitate and accelerate over the top ... He's an above average shooter with NBA range ... Comfortable shooting off the dribble inside the arch and via catch and release outside the arch ... Athleticism allows him to penetrate the heart of the defense, where he's illustrated a soft touch on his floater ... Defensively he has active hands and quick feet, and is a constant threat to steal the ball when defending a loose/careless handle ... Often comes out of nowhere for pokes and swipes as an off-ball defender ...

Weaknesses: He's clearly not a point guard, so you wonder how he'll perform offensively against athletic 6'6 NBA 2-guards ... Would see a huge rise in stock if he can learn to facilitate in the halfcourt as a quarterback ... Struggles at times creating good shots in the halfcourt ... With his athleticism and bounce off the dribble, paired with the ability to explosively elevate, Waiters should attack the rim more often (only attempts 2.5 free throws per game) ... Needs to improve as a free throw shooter in general (only 70%) ... Playing at the top of the zone, he hasn't had the experience defending prolific 1s or 2s in isolation...

Overall: Waiters definitely has a future in the NBA playing the same role he does in college ... He's a spark off the bench, can spell your point guard and spread the floor as a spot-up shooter ... In only 22 minutes of action, he racks up 13 points, 3 assists, 2.3 steals on an impressive 52% shooting ... With Scoop Jardine and Kris Joseph graduating, Waiters will have the chance to maximize his value as a junior, with late lottery not an unrealistic goal/landing range


finstock 05-30-2012 03:27 AM

I like him at 8 - provided certain others are off the board. He could serve as the dynamic guard we've been missing for so long. He has the handle and mentality to develop into a player that lives at the line. Shows glimpses of rare ability to split hedges with ease like Wade, Ginobili and Harden.

Dario 05-30-2012 04:26 AM

Dang, hmmm, good prospect

jeffb 06-09-2012 01:00 PM

Watching the Chicago combine on NBATV and they were talking about Waiters and said that they compare him to a more physical Monte Ellis and he might just be a better shooter then Ellis. They said he's incredibly tough and a great pick 'n roll player. This sounds like a DC kind of player to me.

Dario 06-10-2012 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 652304)
Watching the Chicago combine on NBATV and they were talking about Waiters and said that they compare him to a more physical Monte Ellis and he might just be a better shooter then Ellis. They said he's incredibly tough and a great pick 'n roll player. This sounds like a DC kind of player to me.

comparrisson to Monte? BC do it up!

rapsmannn 06-10-2012 04:16 AM

only reason why he is ranked 8th on some draft boards is because some believe raptors have promised him that he will be selected by the raps

the more i read about this guy and the videos i've seen he looks promising but i do have to say i didn't notice him much in the tournament or maybe i just wasnt paying attention

Windex 06-10-2012 04:59 AM

if drafting Dion Waiters means DDR is out then I'm good with that

DVS 06-10-2012 02:44 PM

Love waiters I think he should have stayed at Cuse and tore it up for a year with Scoop moving on.

He definately has skill and is a real wild card in this draft

jeffb 06-10-2012 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Windex (Post 652499)
if drafting Dion Waiters means DDR is out then I'm good with that

So you'd trade Demar right away and start Waiters?

DVS 06-10-2012 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 652626)
So you'd trade Demar right away and start Waiters?

Its logical. He didn't start in college so definately put him in the fire in the nba

rapsmannn 06-10-2012 09:26 PM

whats surprising about waiters is he got 12.6 ppg off the bench averaging 24 minutes a game while demar derozan averaged 13.9 ppg at 33 minutes per game

waiters does everything better than demar accept demar jumps higher, waiters is more explosive,

just think everyone was calling demar derozan the franchise before the season started this year

i'm not endorsing drafting waiters but he isn't far off what derozan actually his college year can be argued was far better than derozans and we took him 9th overall in the draft

just because we have derozan doesnt mean anything we could still have both on the roster when the nba season starts,

honestly though i agree with windex about demar, i wouldn't be up and arms if he got dealt on draft day, i would actually be happy to see him go, i just think i guy with only a mid range is not good enough to start on any nba team, not a guy who gets the touches he gets

jeffb 06-10-2012 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rapsmannn (Post 652657)
whats surprising about waiters is he got 12.6 ppg off the bench averaging 24 minutes a game while demar derozan averaged 13.9 ppg at 33 minutes per game

waiters does everything better than demar accept demar jumps higher, waiters is more explosive,

just think everyone was calling demar derozan the franchise before the season started this year

i'm not endorsing drafting waiters but he isn't far off what derozan actually his college year can be argued was far better than derozans and we took him 9th overall in the draft

just because we have derozan doesnt mean anything we could still have both
on the roster when the nba season starts,

honestly though i agree with windex about demar, i wouldn't be up and arms if he got dealt on draft day, i would actually be happy to see him go, i just
think i guy with only a mid range is not good enough to start on any nba team, not a guy who gets the touches he gets


Franchise......where, who said that?

Gofish 06-11-2012 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by rapsmannn (Post 652657)
whats surprising about waiters is he got 12.6 ppg off the bench averaging 24 minutes a game while demar derozan averaged 13.9 ppg at 33 minutes per game

waiters does everything better than demar accept demar jumps higher, waiters is more explosive,

just think everyone was calling demar derozan the franchise before the season started this year

i'm not endorsing drafting waiters but he isn't far off what derozan actually his college year can be argued was far better than derozans and we took him 9th overall in the draft

just because we have derozan doesnt mean anything we could still have both on the roster when the nba season starts,

honestly though i agree with windex about demar, i wouldn't be up and arms if he got dealt on draft day, i would actually be happy to see him go, i just think i guy with only a mid range is not good enough to start on any nba team, not a guy who gets the touches he gets

Just sayin'... you are comparing DeRozan's freshman year with Waiters' Sophomore year.

As a Freshman, Waiters averaged 6.6 ppg in 16.3 minutes, or 16.2 per 40 min.

As a Freshman, DeRozan averaged 16.6 per 40 minutes.

Nites 06-12-2012 01:34 AM

Some more stats after the combine:

Height: 6'4" with shoes
Weight: 221 pounds
Wingspan: 6'7.25"
Standing reach: 8'2"

He has a Dwyane Wade type build ^^^

None of the athleticism measurements are in yet.

Kuzzy 06-12-2012 07:45 AM

How will he handle going up against larger 2-guards? Of course he will do better than DeRozan but to what extent?
Barbosa or Ellis???

Nites 06-13-2012 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kuzzy (Post 653040)
How will he handle going up against larger 2-guards? Of course he will do better than DeRozan but to what extent?
Barbosa or Ellis???

It shouldn't be too much of a problem because not many 2 guards post up. I can't think of anyone outside of Kobe and Joe Johnson. Most 2's now a days are either spot up shooters or like to beat there defenders off the dribble.

jeffb 06-20-2012 09:41 PM

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Waiters can handle the rock as well as play off the ball. Hes an above average shooter with NBA range and can create off the dribble, find the open man and deliver the difficult pass, rarely turning it over.

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Waiters always looks to push the ball up court in transition and has the exceptional strength and athleticism to finish at the rim even when fouled. The Philly product utilizes screens effectively, which should translate well to the pick-and-roll obsessed pro game.

Waiters possesses a Manu Ginobili-like ability to change direction suddenly with the ball and glide into spots that the defense doesnt anticipate. He plays with a controlled electricity and can be unstoppable when hes feeling it.

On the defensive end, Waiters can D up either the 1 or the 2. With active hands, fast feet, lower body strength and a high basketball-IQ, he defends well in isolation and is the player on the court who often comes out of nowhere to break up a pass, make a deflection or bring the unexpected double-team.

Waiters was originally projected to go mid-to-late in the first round, primarily because hes not a true point or scoring guard. Also, he played almost exclusively zone defense under HOF coach Jim Boeheim and lacks man-to-man experience. But after an impressive showing in Vegas, the superstar sleeper has been buzzing up the ranks and may wind up being fished out if the 2012 draft pool earlier than first expected.
Beyond the Lottery: Dion Waiters Mike Fratello

Windex 06-20-2012 11:25 PM

talk of Golden State wanting him at 7

LOG 06-20-2012 11:40 PM

He looks like he has a little too much body fat for a 2guard, I might be wrong though.. But definitely very interesting prospect

jeffb 06-21-2012 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LOG (Post 656021)
He looks like he has a little too much body fat for a 2guard, I might be wrong though.. But definitely very interesting prospect


Measured at 5% body fat last year, at the combine think they said 7 or 8% body fat.


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