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Old 04-30-2011, 10:01 AM   #101 (permalink)
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Of course he has, he's a good player. But who here this season were saying he's better then Bosh. When this was said by Randolph everyone laughed. He's been great vs an aging undersized team in the first round. But let's not lose our heads here.
Randolph has been playing great all season. Putting Memphis on his back and beating the best team in the NBA isn't easy. The fact you think Bosh could do the same is ridiculous. Bosh can never do what Randolph did.
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Old 04-30-2011, 10:08 AM   #102 (permalink)
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Even if Bosh flopped all series like this, he still wouldn't beat the Spurs.

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Bosh loves flopping, if he was playing the Spurs its all he would do because he knows he can't win. Randolph doesn't flop, flopping is for bitches and flopping won't win you a playoff series.
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Randolph has been playing great all season. Putting Memphis on his back and beating the best team in the NBA isn't easy. The fact you think Bosh could do the same is ridiculous. Bosh can never do what Randolph did.
You're overstating things a little bit. Bosh would not be able to do it in the same manner, but he could do it, and has done it. There's no denying that Zach was able to push the Spurs around, but Bosh might have had about the same success using quickness. And the main thing that has brought Randolph success, is that he is playing much more like Bosh always has - in terms of being unselfish.
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There is more reason to believe Bosh wouldn't have carried Memphis to a series win than there is to believe he could have.
Really? With Gasol playing next to him instead the king of soft? You want to make Randolph out as the dominant player that Bosh supposedly isn't, and yet he likely doesn't fare too well in this past series without Gasol on his team.

Memphis is a really nice team precisely because they do not rely on one guy. And Toronto was a pretty nice team in the one year when they had more than one guy they could count on to some extent. If Toronto could have defended the perimeter like the Grizzlies did, then they win more than a couple of series from the past - and fairly handily.
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Really? With Gasol playing next to him instead the king of soft? You want to make Randolph out as the dominant player that Bosh supposedly isn't, and yet he likely doesn't fare too well in this past series without Gasol on his team.

Memphis is a really nice team precisely because they do not rely on one guy. And Toronto was a pretty nice team in the one year when they had more than one guy they could count on to some extent. If Toronto could have defended the perimeter like the Grizzlies did, then they win more than a couple of series from the past - and fairly handily.
Exactly. Like I said where was all of Randolph's playoff success prior to the last week? I mean if we're gonna look at Bosh's time in Toronto, should we not look at Randolph's playoff infutility in NY? Hell, he couldn't even get them TO the playoffs.
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Really? With Gasol playing next to him instead the king of soft? You want to make Randolph out as the dominant player that Bosh supposedly isn't, and yet he likely doesn't fare too well in this past series without Gasol on his team.

Memphis is a really nice team precisely because they do not rely on one guy. And Toronto was a pretty nice team in the one year when they had more than one guy they could count on to some extent. If Toronto could have defended the perimeter like the Grizzlies did, then they win more than a couple of series from the past - and fairly handily.
Really? Bosh wilted in those playoff series' too... wasn't just on 'the king of soft' and a lack of perimeter D. The Grizzlies did more than just defend the perimeter.... and they did it without their best player against one of the toughest outs in the playoffs. The spurs have been a top team for the last 10 years. You're comparing them to New jersey and Orlando against us?
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Exactly. Like I said where was all of Randolph's playoff success prior to the last week? I mean if we're gonna look at Bosh's time in Toronto, should we not look at Randolph's playoff infutility in NY? Hell, he couldn't even get them TO the playoffs.
Wow.... you're talking about a team that everyone thought was the worst run franchise in the league while he was there. Not only did they trade for a self-destructing Marbury, but also a self-destructing Curry. Randolph had been in two very negative environments before Memphis... Let's not forget the Jailblazer perception. Maybe he contributed to it as well, but Bosh was given the house here. As far as I'm concerned, if he considered himself the MVP talent he claimed, those failures are on him.
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Really? Bosh wilted in those playoff series' too... wasn't just on 'the king of soft' and a lack of perimeter D. The Grizzlies did more than just defend the perimeter.... and they did it without their best player against one of the toughest outs in the playoffs. The spurs have been a top team for the last 10 years. You're comparing them to New jersey and Orlando against us?
The Spurs were not the team of the past. You do get that right? They are in fact much closer to being like the Nets and Magic that the Raptors faced, than they are what they were as champions. Look back at those series Bosh played in and you will see that it was the 3-ball that killed his team. The Spurs would have won this past series had they been able to get their shots from beyond the arc that they found success with all season.

Saying Bosh wilted really ignores the fact that there was nobody close to Gasol next to him, nor any kind of defense on the perimeter like we've seen from Memphis. Considering how much was on him alone, he did pretty well, wilting about as much as Garnett or the other Gasol in the past. He played well enough for a balanced team to have accomplished a win.
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Wow.... you're talking about a team that everyone thought was the worst run franchise in the league while he was there. Not only did they trade for a self-destructing Marbury, but also a self-destructing Curry. Randolph had been in two very negative environments before Memphis... Let's not forget the Jailblazer perception. Maybe he contributed to it as well, but Bosh was given the house here. As far as I'm concerned, if he considered himself the MVP talent he claimed, those failures are on him.
Bosh was given the house? What does that even mean? It certainly doesn't mean that he was afforded the luxury of having Gasol instead of Bargnani, or playing on well-balanced team. And I missed where he claimed to have MVP talent. Why make things up? He said he had a goal of reaching that level. At the same time JO was saying they had all the right pieces to contend for a championship.
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The bottom line is Bosh had 7 years in Toronto to prove himself and couldn't, so he jumped to Miami to get overshadowed by Wade/Lebron. Randolph went to Memphis and completely changed the atmosphere of the team and knocking out the Spurs. Who thought they'd knock out the best team in the NBA? Not many people. And even Dwyane Wade agrees!

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Bosh was given the house? What does that even mean? It certainly doesn't mean that he was afforded the luxury of having Gasol instead of Bargnani, or playing on well-balanced team. And I missed where he claimed to have MVP talent. Why make things up? He said he had a goal of reaching that level. At the same time JO was saying they had all the right pieces to contend for a championship.
Bosh said his goal was to be MVP that one year, after the season had already started.... to me, and maybe this is where I go astray in your mind, that means he felt he had MVP talent and his goal was to show it that year.

Gasol instead of Bargnani or O'Neal? Jermaine O'Neal helped get Miami to the playoffs, so at what point does Bosh not take fault for the failures... as many here slag Bargnani for 'carrying them to 20 wins'...

I didn't make anything up. We just view it differently. If Bosh were as good as some suggest, then Lebron and Wade should never been in any conversations for MVP this year.... but yet they were often among many if not most media outlets.
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The bottom line is Bosh had 7 years in Toronto to prove himself and couldn't, so he jumped to Miami to get overshadowed by Wade/Lebron. Randolph went to Memphis and completely changed the atmosphere of the team and knocking out the Spurs. Who thought they'd knock out the best team in the NBA? Not many people. And even Dwyane Wade agrees!

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This place has gone looney toons. Lol
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Bosh's 2 games against the Spurs....

17 + 14 (7/9 FTs)

30 + 12 (10/10 FTs)

Yeah..... he really struggled to get his game off.


Looney Tunes is an understatement. People have flat-out gone off the deep end. lol.
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This place has gone looney toons. Lol
You're right.... Wade's comment is absurd. Randolph is not an animal, he's a stud. I bet there's a lineup wanting to have his babies.
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Bosh's 2 games against the Spurs....

17 + 14 (7/9 FTs)

30 + 12 (10/10 FTs)

Yeah..... he really struggled to get his game off.


Looney Tunes is an understatement. People have flat-out gone off the deep end. lol.
Is that from his Miami versus SA games? Just curious. Seems there are apples being compared to oranges.
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Is that from his Miami versus SA games? Just curious. Seems there are apples being compared to oranges.
Of course Miami. Unless Bosh plays for more then one team. Which seems highly improbable. Lol
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Is that from his Miami versus SA games? Just curious. Seems there are apples being compared to oranges.
So let me get this straight.... Bosh's game right now means nothing because he plays "on a good team" while MEM's success is ALL due to Zach and has nothing to do with the supporting cast??

Interesting....
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So let me get this straight.... Bosh's game right now means nothing because he plays "on a good team" while MEM's success is ALL due to Zach and has nothing to do with the supporting cast??

Interesting....
Come on now. That doesn't seem logical to you? I mean Randolph is a future HOF player and everyone wants to have his babies ya know. Lol
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So let me get this straight.... Bosh's game right now means nothing because he plays "on a good team" while MEM's success is ALL due to Zach and has nothing to do with the supporting cast??

Interesting....
no... that's not what I wrote.... and in fact, you're again taking shit out of context. I've come to expect it though.
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Come on now. That doesn't seem logical to you? I mean Randolph is a future HOF player and everyone wants to have his babies ya know. Lol
I love how Jeff is the only one that can make absurd claims.... lol

future HOF? Well played Jeff, you're comprehension skills have won me over again.
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