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Old 02-14-2014, 05:06 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Try to find a deadline taker for pieces like Hayes, Novak and Hansbrough. Bring back expirings or late picks (contender 1sts, or fringe team 2nds).

Look for a taker for Salmons' (and Hansbrough if there's no deadline deal) contract, in exchange for a decent (late lotto to mid-first) pick and a bad contract, or maybe a late pick and a contract like Perkins (bad, but fills a role on the team).

Re-sign Lowry to whatever it takes (I expect 5/50 would do it). Seems like the only real competition for his services might come from LAL. If he wants to bolt, contact LAL about a Lowry S+T for Nash and whoever they draft (assuming they have a 10th ish pick). Lets them grab a top PG and still have loads of cap to play with to do a quick rebuild and compete in Kobe's last couple years (without waiting for their draft pick to develop).

Sign 2Pat to a 5 year deal at 6-7M per. Assuming Lowry re-signs, use the remaining cap space to sign an extension with Amir for 7-8M per (plus a little signing bonus this summer). Depending on who went out and came back in at deadline, and who you draft, fill in remaining roster spots with minimum level guys on one year deals, keeping cap space free in 2015. Extend the QO, but only re-sign Vasquez for a one-year deal unless he signs for real cheap long term, and only if he is still needed as backup PG.

Then next summer you could be looking at max cap space while having Lowry, DD, Ross, JV, Amir, 2Pat, draft pick all locked up.

If Lowry bolts, whether you manage to pull of the Nash swap or not, try to move all the vet pieces (including exploring the market for DD) for picks and prospects. DD would have to be a very good return though. I'd just be worried about his mental state if he had to go through more losing.
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Old 02-14-2014, 07:02 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I wouldn't let go of GV as a back-up, or let him walk for free.
He can be dangled, he has been a starter in the past with real potential.
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Old 02-14-2014, 07:43 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Trade any of the following for an expiring and/or pick: Hansbrough, Salmons, Daye, Stone, Byucks, Novak, Fields and Hayes (close to impossible).

I’d trade Hansbrough to remove his 3.3 million dollar cap hit (or 1 million dollar buyout) for next year and Salmons 1 million dollar buyout for next year. Why? It gives us some more wiggle room to pursue free agents.

Use our 1st round draft pick 17-20 to draft Glen Robinson the 3rd. Draft another prospect with the 34th overall pick from Sacramento. Third stringer point guard wouldn’t be bad, just don’t bring back Julian Stone or Byucks.

Re-sign Lowry to a 4 year 36 million dollar deal. Do not push it to 5 years. If it can’t work out, look to do a sign and trade with LAL, absorb Nash’s contract and a 1st round LAL pick.

If Lowry remains; then courting Luol Deng should be a priority. If he agrees to sign with us, we will need to open up space, and at that point and only under those circumstances, will I look to trade both Hayes and Fields along with 2016 NYK pick to unload Hayes and Fields’ contracts to get a TPE in order for us to sign Deng. If Deng doesn’t work out, look to sign Marion, Ariza, or Salmons/Aminu.

Re-sign Patrick Patterson to a 4 year deal worth 18 million. Re-sign Vasquez to a 3 year deal worth 5-6 million.

Try to test the trade market for a good starting PF, making Amir come off the bench instead. Going after Boozer if they use the amnesty clause on him wouldn’t be a bad idea as Amir and him would make for a good offense/defense switch, depending on the circumstances of the game. Pick up another big along the lines of Chris Kaman, Jordan Hill, or Dejuan Blair.

Lowry/Vasquez
DeRozan/Ross
Deng/GR3
Amir/Patterson
Valanciunas/Kaman (Or Boozer if he's available via amnesty)

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Old 02-14-2014, 08:31 PM   #24 (permalink)
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[quote=Raptor4Life;866514]Trade any of the following for an expiring and/or pick: Hansbrough, Salmons, Daye, Stone, Byucks, Novak, Fields and Hayes (close to impossible).

I’d trade Hansbrough to remove his 3.3 million dollar cap hit (or 1 million dollar buyout) for next year and Salmons 1 million dollar buyout for next year. Why? It gives us some more wiggle room to pursue free agents.

Use our 1st round draft pick 17-20 to draft Glen Robinson the 3rd. Draft another prospect with the 34th overall pick from Sacramento. Third stringer point guard wouldn’t be bad, just don’t bring back Julian Stone or Byucks.

Re-sign Lowry to a 4 year 36 million dollar deal. Do not push it to 5 years. If it can’t work out, look to do a sign and trade with LAL, absorb Nash’s contract and a 1st round LAL pick.


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Old 02-14-2014, 08:53 PM   #25 (permalink)
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I don't see LAL giving up the 10th pick in an S+T in any way with decent depth of good players in the draft and with no pick in 15 and 17. No way. As much as OKC hates Perkins contract they would need a good defending big back this year if before the DL. I think Perkins contract was way worse last summer than it is now. They just ride him out this year for sure and then he's an expiring unless its for an improvment and Salmons and Th is not.

Lets fine tune it...I get what ur saying but the only way we get max cap space in 2 summers if trading expirings this years for next year expirings. Not ditching salary for this summer. The more salary that we have in expirings at the next deadline/summer the more flexibility we have. Really.. GV and Novac are priorities to go before anyone if you want max cap space in 2 years, for a contract expiring in 2015.

Trading Salmons leaves us dead on the wing for the remainder of the year without Salmons and no depth there for next year . It doesn't really address backup PG. There's no way next year these things can continue to go unadressed. Mu is going to let this team take a shot this year for sure and I see him finding some mprovement no matter how small at the DL.

I don't see him ever hamstringing the team next year with only min level vets and a SF. Guess my point (prob yours) is spend into the tax or close to again next year, set it up for the following summer IMO. Trading Salmons doesn't really help with that unless its for Perkins and another wing and we trade the pick we immediately get for that wing, or trade the worst of our 2016 (but then we are stuck with fricken GV). If we have max space in 2015, trading or worst in 2016 matters much less. Matter of fact I can see him picking up Salmons if he's not traded before this summer for these very reasons. Pretty sure they pick up TH for 3 mil instead of eating 1 mil.

So I'm in if we can trade GV, Novak for for a big that expires in 1.5 years. Hayes or Fields and worst of our 2016 pick for a PG that expires in the same.

I wish this would work...Andre Miller and Kevin Faried for GV, TH, Novak and the 2016 knicks/nuggets pick and our 2014 2nd rounder. Or our 2015 pick flat out instead or 2016.

Ronnie Turiaf (like his D), JJ Berea for TH, GV and the trade the difference in the 2016 picks?

I started this post an hour ago before the suggestions because i thought there was more than Perkins... But beyond trying to get Gobert (cheap), Plumlee (cheap nbut tough to get) or Dalmebert. There's very little else that works for a good big that can play defense beyond al of these.
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Old 02-15-2014, 02:21 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Really wish we could move fields lol. Atrocious contract for a guy playing 15th man
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Old 02-15-2014, 10:38 AM   #27 (permalink)
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Really wish we could move fields lol. Atrocious contract for a guy playing 15th man
one more season and he's gone, won't make much difference since this summer we're not projected to have too much cap space. Plus, this summer there will be a large number of teams with cap space, so competition for free agents will be fierce, which means overpaid contracts left and right.
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LF could only be dealt for:

a player with a longer contract and a pick and/or prospect;

a player expiring but a pick would have to be dealt with LF;

a player on a similar contract but different position
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Old 02-15-2014, 11:59 AM   #29 (permalink)
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There's no need to trade Fields imo, he'll be expiring next season anyway
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I see quite a few people mention drafting GRIII...

I said it before and said it last year, Glenn Robinson III is very overrated. If his name wasn't GRIII, I wonder if people would even mention his name.

Michigan fans are getting tired of him and want him benched.

He has good size and can dunk the ball. That is it. Not aggressive at all and can't shoot.
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I see quite a few people mention drafting GRIII...

I said it before and said it last year, Glenn Robinson III is very overrated. If his name wasn't GRIII, I wonder if people would even mention his name.

Michigan fans are getting tired of him and want him benched.

He has good size and can dunk the ball. That is it. Not aggressive at all and can't shoot.
Who is better than him that will be available in the late teens-20s
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our pick would at best #22 to at worst #14, i think.

so i think in that range you can have better tha, GRIII.

there is some interesting prospect late in the draft, i wouldn't mind :

Elfrid Payton - PG
Napier - PG

Aaron Gordon - SF/PF

Willie Cauley-Stein - C

before GRIII

but i think MU will search to upgrade the pick, so i think we should go after Tyler ennis if he is a late lottery pick.
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1- Hire a special coach for JV, someone like Hakeem or Ewing.
2- improve our bench.
3- Checking the various options for a good coach next season.
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I'll have to look who enters the draft and stuff and what Toronto needs are when that time comes.

Just saying GRIII is not that good right now. In fact, most scouts are dropping him to the 2nd round now and saying he should return. He is not even an top option on Michigan after losing Burke, THjr, and McGary. That was the excuse for him last year, too many options for him to show his talent off. Now he still can't do it.

Three players I really like that play in the same conference as GRIII are SG Gary Harris(prob top 10 pick), Nik Stauska(great shooter, prob late lottery/teens), and MSU PF/C Adreian Payne(I think Payne will be a good solid big in the NBA).

I'm just going on by what I've watched from GRIII. The dude is an good athlete but he is not a very good basketball player. If you think you can coach him up, great. But this dude comes from a basketball family and still hasn't figured it out. Usually that is not a great sign, because it means he has been playing since he was a kid. He is not a raw prospect that has only been playing basketball since he was 15/16, if that was the case I would take a bigger chance on him since I think he could have a lot to learn.

Shooting % is down .90% from last year, RPG down, 3pt% is down(and bad again), etc. Not a good sign. He was supposed to be the #1 player on Michigan this year(after Mcgary went down), right now he is being used at the #4/#5 option late in the game.

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The player we must really think about in this draft is Vasilje Micic. He is listed late first round in most of the mock drafts. I do not know, but this kid has amazing passing skills, any team passes such a classic point gurad will repent big time in the future.
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I would trade JV this draft for a top 10 pick to take a player I felt has a higher chance of being an all-star. Resign Patterson and Lowry and keep most of the team in tact.

Hope that of our 2 1sts we get an impact player to add to the core. And wait for contracts like Fields and Hayes to expire to improve in FA

Right now Lowry, Demar, Ross looks like they can be as productive as Billups, Rip and Prince down the road. But where is Ben and Sheed?
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lol JV for a top ten pick.
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I would trade JV this draft for a top 10 pick to take a player I felt has a higher chance of being an all-star.
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I'll have to look who enters the draft and stuff and what Toronto needs are when that time comes.

Just saying GRIII is not that good right now. In fact, most scouts are dropping him to the 2nd round now and saying he should return. He is not even an top option on Michigan after losing Burke, THjr, and McGary. That was the excuse for him last year, too many options for him to show his talent off. Now he still can't do it.

Three players I really like that play in the same conference as GRIII are SG Gary Harris(prob top 10 pick), Nik Stauska(great shooter, prob late lottery/teens), and MSU PF/C Adreian Payne(I think Payne will be a good solid big in the NBA).

I'm just going on by what I've watched from GRIII. The dude is an good athlete but he is not a very good basketball player. If you think you can coach him up, great. But this dude comes from a basketball family and still hasn't figured it out. Usually that is not a great sign, because it means he has been playing since he was a kid. He is not a raw prospect that has only been playing basketball since he was 15/16, if that was the case I would take a bigger chance on him since I think he could have a lot to learn.

Shooting % is down .90% from last year, RPG down, 3pt% is down(and bad again), etc. Not a good sign. He was supposed to be the #1 player on Michigan this year(after Mcgary went down), right now he is being used at the #4/#5 option late in the game.
This post would be great in the draft forum threads. But we either need to draft a SF, or back up PG or C. The very last thing we need to draft is a SG.
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This post would be great in the draft forum threads. But we either need to draft a SF, or back up PG or C. The very last thing we need to draft is a SG.

Oh I agree. The guys I mention were not Raptors needs type players, just guys I like. SF is not as strong in the teens, maybe a guy like TJ Warren from NC State? Good scorer, 6-8. Had a good game against Syracuse tonight. Having a very good year at NC State.


As for backup Center, one guy I would look at that might be a cheap solution, Kosta Koufos of Memphis. He played well when Gasol was out and had a solid year in Denver last year. 3M team option next year. With Gasol being hurt though, might be tough to get him out there now. I would look into it though.

Would have been a good trade this past offseason. Memphis got him pretty cheap from Denver.
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