Your opinion of this team after this loss.
Old 01-02-2010, 10:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Has it changed?

Still think we should deal Calderon?

Still think we should keep/deal Bosh?

This was a pathetic effort from the Raptors in my opinion. If we cant beat Boston with our squad when they don't have 3 of their 4 best players then I think that speaks wonders about the talent and level and general enthusiasm of the Raptors. Granted the refs had a few bad calls. but the overall lack of effort is what lost us this game.

btw. Davis = Flopmaster.

That is my rant... thoughts?
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Old 01-02-2010, 10:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The refs hate Bargnani and some celtics fans on espn board think that Bargs was wrapping his arm around perkins
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Old 01-02-2010, 10:19 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well as long as we have a draft pick this year in a deep class....


oh wait, BC gave away that shit.
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Old 01-02-2010, 10:20 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Also I'd like to add that hedo turkoglu has overrated ball-handling skills
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Old 01-02-2010, 10:20 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Knicks>>>>Nets>>>>Shit>>>>Scalebrine>>>>>Raptors.
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Old 01-02-2010, 10:24 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Triano- shit coach (no change there in the least)

Talented roster- yes (no change there)

Lack of killer instinct- Yes (no change there)

Inconsistent- yes (no change there)

Awful D- yes (as usual)

Chemistry comes and goes- yep



Seriously, losing tonight doesn't surprise me in the least. I said it as the game started, i was scared about this game, and rightfully so. And whenever anyone around here ever says we're gonna win "for sure" i'll remind them of SA & Boston!
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Old 01-02-2010, 10:40 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Relax. The guys showed some heart there in the 4th.

We need a shooting gaurd though. Derozan is too young. Weems is Jamario Moon v. 2.0. Belinelli is ABSOLUTE SHIT. And Antoine Wright needs to go back to Dallas.

The SG is a position where we lose every game.
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Old 01-02-2010, 11:15 PM   #8 (permalink)
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No it hasn't. I knew coming intot his game we would lose. We akways face shit teams and win, people get their hopes up only to get them crushed by the Raps, hence I always thought the Raps were going to lose these last 6 games
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My opinion of this team on the road and against experienced teams is very poor. It's not about effort though. It's about executing a gameplan. Any guesses as to what the gameplan was tonight? I'm not sure there was anything coherent that could be followed through right through the game.
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My opinion of this team on the road and against experienced teams is very poor. It's not about effort though. It's about executing a gameplan. Any guesses as to what the gameplan was tonight? I'm not sure there was anything coherent that could be followed through right through the game.
There rarely seems to be much of a game plan. This team simply either goes out there and wins on talent alone or looks lost and lethargic. Overall this coaching staff seems to have absolutely no sense of direction or plan and as Bosh said 3 weeks ago, "we need to stick to a system and stop adjusting to our opponents before the games even starts", that statement said soooo much about the lack of direction or confidence in the so called "system".
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Old 01-02-2010, 11:36 PM   #11 (permalink)
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My opinion has not changed and is the same as it was when we were being all crappy and stuff. Until they stop with their usual silliness, put a serious winning streak together and get a few games above .500, it'll stay that way and no dramatic Bargnani 3's will change that. We've made a slight turn, but we've turned no corner.
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Old 01-02-2010, 11:40 PM   #12 (permalink)
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This team doesnt have a gameplan, but it goes deeper than that.

Its not a well built team. You want to build a winner you need defence rebounding and toughness to go with the talent, and the talent at the top obviously leading their troops. This team isnt tough, doesnt rebound, doesnt defend, doesnt rotate, and just always seems to be a step slow. And the top teams do the little things and we just dont.

Again, BC was way too obsessed with turning this team into Suns East rather than properly building around Bosh and turning this team into a contender for years to come. And how do you do that? Look at the teams that are winners. What do they all have in common. They are all tough, gritty teams that get down and defend and rebound, and like Stan Van Gundy pointed out when I was in Orlando, when their offence is off their sure will and defence can get them through games and get them tough wins. Our team will never pull out games like that.

When we signed Turk I was all over BC for throwing away our cap space, not because of this year or even next year, but the few years after. And now, even this year the guy is playing like a role player. 12 points most nights. Terrible conditioning. Plays no defence, isnt tough, doesnt rebound.

Turk was what we needed in a sense to close out games, but if youre not good enough to even get to that point vs the good teams, then whats the point? I wouldnt have kept Marion either. I would have kept the cap space and looked for a trade because in the time we're in teams are looking to cut salary. This way we could have traded for a guy who makes 10-14 mil who fits what we need and not have to try and match salaries which is pretty much impossible with the roster we have now.

BC made a horrible decision in signing Turk, and he should have made a decision on Bargs/Bosh and got rid of Bargs in the offseason because it just doesnt work.

I still think you put some quickness on the perimeter and get a Dampier/Haywood type with Bosh this team would take off. Its just really poorly built, and Bosh deserves better.

I dont even want to say fire BC because we're not gonna hire anyone better, but he hasnt done a good job in getting this team to where it needs to be and where he said it would be.

Again its 15 years in and we still dont have a consistant winner. Its amazing how big Raptor Nation has become with such a shitty pathetic product.
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Old 01-02-2010, 11:57 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Nothing has changed. Raps would've won if the game was played in Toronto
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Old 01-03-2010, 12:02 AM   #14 (permalink)
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Its all Caldes fault.

Wow, I just have fun pointing that out over and over again.
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Its all Caldes fault.

Wow, I just have fun pointing that out over and over again.
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Old 01-03-2010, 12:27 AM   #16 (permalink)
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What was worst tonight our offence or our d ? I say our offence was shit tonight fucking Hedo has to shoot more....this fucking bull shit that he needs to have the fucking ball is fucking bull shit. If their scrubs can out score us then really this recent winning streak was for not........we need a floor general on the floor to control things and right now we don't have one.
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We need a shooting gaurd though. Derozan is too young. Weems is Jamario Moon v. 2.0. Belinelli is ABSOLUTE SHIT. And Antoine Wright needs to go back to Dallas.

The SG is a position where we lose every game.
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Old 01-03-2010, 12:29 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Relax. The guys showed some heart there in the 4th.

We need a shooting gaurd though. Derozan is too young. Weems is Jamario Moon v. 2.0. Belinelli is ABSOLUTE SHIT. And Antoine Wright needs to go back to Dallas.

The SG is a position where we lose every game.
+1, thats the straight goods!
Banks > Wright, Weems, Belinelli, Pops, Johnson, POB at pg than all these D-league superstars.

Calderone will be traded when he is back up to speed, or at the trade dead line.

Turkoglu ... whatever.
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Old 01-03-2010, 12:31 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Nah still saw this coming, at least we didn't get blown out
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Old 01-03-2010, 12:39 AM   #20 (permalink)
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I knew coming intot his game we would lose.

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I always thought the Raps were going to lose these last 6 games
Come on now... this is the first time you were actually correct about the Raptors losing over the last 6, so let's not act like you "knew" they were going to lose. You just happened to eventually be right.
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