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The Good: Retro uniforms

Things are pretty bad when the highlight of the year is a uniform change. The Raptors unveiled retro uniforms honouring the Toronto Huskies and wore them for six games in 2010.
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The Bad: Hedo Turkoglu(notes)

Okay, technically his mammoth five-year, $53-million contract with the Raptors was signed in 2009. But Turkogluís fall from grace really took place in 2010.

By early 2010 he had drawn the fansí ire with his poor production but things took a turn for the worse on a personal level in March. Turkoglu sat out a game with a stomach virus but that same night was caught hitting the clubs in Toronto.
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The Ugly: The Chris Bosh fiasco

Speaking of falling from grace, the Raptorsí franchise leader in just about everything, Chris Bosh, finally said goodbye to the team on July 7.

Bosh spent his last season in Toronto at times looking like an MVP candidate, then looking like he quit, then sitting on the bench with injuries as the Raptors fell one game short of the final playoff spot in the Eastern Conference.

When the Raptors couldnít work out a sign-and-trade, Bosh went to the Miami Heat to join LeBron James(notes) and Dwyane Wade(notes) while the Raptors got nothing in return.

Though fans had a feeling all along that Bosh was on his way out, it was a bit of a slap in the face when he took to Twitter to ask where he should sign.

After the dust had settled, Colangelo called out Bosh saying heís not a franchise player. Bosh shot back insisting that he didnít quit on the team; and finally, head coach Jay Triano said Bosh was never a leader.
The Good, Bad & Ugly 2010: Toronto Raptors - NBA - Yahoo! Sports
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The Raptors were able to work out a sign-and-trade.

Obviously my perspective differs from that of a Yahoo sports writer based out of the US, but I think the best things that came from 2010 were related to what they called Bad and Ugly.

1) Getting Turkoglu out of here was the best thing that happened all year. Barbosa has been a heck of a steal considering the garbage that was shipped out. I would've been happy to see him cut and the Raptors just eat his salary if they really had to.
2) Moving Bosh ends a development plan that has had a horizontal trajectory for quite some time. He is a really good 2nd option but this team was being hampered by continuing to build around Bosh.
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The Raptors were able to work out a sign-and-trade.

Obviously my perspective differs from that of a Yahoo sports writer based out of the US, but I think the best things that came from 2010 were related to what they called Bad and Ugly.

1) Getting Turkoglu out of here was the best thing that happened all year. Barbosa has been a heck of a steal considering the garbage that was shipped out. I would've been happy to see him cut and the Raptors just eat his salary if they really had to.
2) Moving Bosh ends a development plan that has had a horizontal trajectory for quite some time. He is a really good 2nd option but this team was being hampered by continuing to build around Bosh.
I'd argue that we never really built around Bosh at all.... we simply tried to acquire various square pegs to jam into round holes. Broken down has-beens, D-leaguers and a PF who's skills were redundant with Bosh here do not constitute "building around him".... not correctly anyway.
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i'd argue that Bosh was the square peg.
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For all the shit that Colangelo took for the Turkoglu signing (and somewhat justified - he was a bust here), at least Turk was relatively healthy and, at the end of the day, a moveable contract.

Ultimately Turkoglu's fat deal landed us Barbosa - a good player on a fair contract. Say what you will but Colangelo has trimmed the fat and we are not burdened with ANY long term albatross contracts. The 3 Raptors with the longest contracts are Bargnani, Johnson and Davis, who are probably the 3 Raptors I'd like to see in a Raptors jersey the longest (unless we somehow magically parlay them into Dwight Howard or someone of the sort).

We have no more Alvin Williams/JYD/Hakeem/Marcus Banks/Antonio Davis (the later years) type of albatross contracts around our necks for probably the first time in Raptors history, if not the first time since we were an expansion team!
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i'd argue that Bosh was the square peg.
I agree. Bosh was not dominant enough on the offensive or defensive end to warrant making him the centerpiece. He became the franchise player by default when VC left and has never demonstrated the talent to match that cache. I'm worried that they might make the same mistake with Bargnani....
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For all the shit that Colangelo took for the Turkoglu signing (and somewhat justified - he was a bust here), at least Turk was relatively healthy and, at the end of the day, a moveable contract.

Ultimately Turkoglu's fat deal landed us Barbosa - a good player on a fair contract. Say what you will but Colangelo has trimmed the fat and we are not burdened with ANY long term albatross contracts. ....
imo, Phoenix got even better retruns than we did for Turkoglu. I don't know how they pulled it off, but somehow they did.
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I agree. Bosh was not dominant enough on the offensive or defensive end to warrant making him the centerpiece. He became the franchise player by default when VC left and has never demonstrated the talent to match that cache. I'm worried that they might make the same mistake with Bargnani....
principle difference being Bargnani is not making and will not make max money nor does he seem concerned with being an NBA superstar type.
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imo, Phoenix got even better retruns than we did for Turkoglu. I don't know how they pulled it off, but somehow they did.
Because they trew Richardson + draft pick into the trade. One for one they would probably get fucked!
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Because they trew Richardson + draft pick into the trade. One for one they would probably get fucked!
Phoenix got a draft pick in the deal, not the Magic.
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I agree. Bosh was not dominant enough on the offensive or defensive end to warrant making him the centerpiece. He became the franchise player by default when VC left and has never demonstrated the talent to match that cache. I'm worried that they might make the same mistake with Bargnani....
24 & 11 with over 50% shooting isn't dominant enough on the offensive end?

There's maybe what? 1 player in the league right now who can guard him 1-on1?
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I think that orlando got the better of that deal. But i believe i am in a minority.
Orlando got rid of some access fat. Lewis and carter.
They still need a big. But i am sure come trade dealine some vet. will wanna move to a championship calibre team like orlando.
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Bosh and Vince were quite similar in that they were not Lebron, and needed another guy with comparable talent to make things work. A team could have been assembled in which Bosh was a main player. But it just never happened. Instead any kind of good piece, like Garbajosa, TJ, Jose, JO, Hedo, just fell apart. The horizontal line was due in large part to bad luck. It wasn't altogether different with Vince, except Vince had more talent but much less drive - still, his supporting cast all became cripples in a hurry.

Now Colangelo needs to show an ability to make something from scratch, rather than fill in roster spots with somewhat random selections. He was wedded to Bosh, and yet never really seemed wedded to any overall plan in terms of building a team, and then Bosh was a suitable fall guy for him. That doesn't cut it for me. Nor did the firing of Sam. This guy has to really show something more than what he put together in Phoenix. He's rested on those laurels a little too long now, and if he manages to Nash here, it's just not going to be the same Nash, so don't even go there. It's time for him to stop relying on the reputations of individual players, and put a damn team together.
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imo, Phoenix got even better retruns than we did for Turkoglu. I don't know how they pulled it off, but somehow they did.
Phoenix gave up other pieces too. Plus expiring money to move Turk. AND they were dealing with the only team who actually had a high value placed on him, the Magic. I don't think they would have done as well with any other trade partner.
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