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Old 05-02-2011, 12:53 PM   #21 (permalink)
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lol, a case of Raptors fan overrating there own players. you would never do that trade....well, the NETS would never do that trade so if would never come down to us to make a decision like that.

anytime you can get a superstar (yes dwill is a superstar, funny how quickly people forget because of one bad season, and its not even that bad, and then traded to quiet new jersey) you do the trade. and his prime is right now or just about to begin. how is it that there are people that are even considering?!

oh please....what a stupid argument.....deron williams isn't going to give us a title? since when is one superstar enough to win anybody a title? and you think we have a better chance with ed davis and derozan

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Actually, if it was just the 2 for 1 and no salary matching, I think NJ does do that trade. They'd be foolish not to. But there is a CBA to deal with.... so it's not worth worrying about.
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Actually, if it was just the 2 for 1 and no salary matching, I think NJ does do that trade. They'd be foolish not to. But there is a CBA to deal with.... so it's not worth worrying about.
really? you think so?
if they do do it then its essentially trading devin harris, derrick favors, 1st round pick in 2011 and 2012 for ed davis and derozan.
kinda brings them back to square one IMO and no legit PG
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awe man you guys are killing me,trade both derozan and ed davis? kobe and alonzo mourning? for a balding pg? PLEEASE!!!!


i'm only half kidding in this post
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Old 05-02-2011, 01:02 PM   #24 (permalink)
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really? you think so?
if they do do it then its essentially trading devin harris, derrick favors, 1st round pick in 2011 and 2012 for ed davis and derozan.
kinda brings them back to square one IMO and no legit PG
utah got a hell of a deal, possible raping
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Old 05-02-2011, 01:46 PM   #25 (permalink)
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As much as I've been impressed with DD if we had a chance to grab Gasol and pretty much lock up a LEGIT C for the next 5 years I'd do it in a heartbeat.

I guess it's possible that DD could become the next Kobe but it's a chance I'd be willing to take.... esp. since we still have Barbosa right now.

Solid C's are EXTREMELY hard to find.
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Old 05-02-2011, 02:18 PM   #26 (permalink)
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NO! Not unless it was for Steph Curry!
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Old 05-02-2011, 02:29 PM   #27 (permalink)
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We had this All-Star power forward for 7 years and we could never find that star wing player that could complement him. We already have a young power forward that has some upside, now we want to get rid Derozan. Derozan has a good character, strong work ethic, and has improved the last 2 years. He is definetly a strong building block.

After having Bargnani for 5 years at center, I know we are desperate for a defensive minded center. Besides Dwight Howard, how many elite centers are there in the league. Noah, Nene, Bogut are good defensive centers, but they are mainly role players on offense. Centers are mostly complentary or role players in the league. Look at the all-star game, Dwight Howard was the only true center on both rosters.
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Old 05-02-2011, 02:32 PM   #28 (permalink)
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It's not about getting rid of him. It's about asking yourself, is this a moveable piece for the right price. Do we need to be tied to anyone really?
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I hope Derozan and Ed Davis are reading this thread... make you guys regret ever thinking of trading them away..

trading those guys away does not make sense.. Bargs is a guy you trade, he has been here for 5years, you know what he brings..
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No one on our team is an untouchable. Sure we have some good young guys, but if a good deal comes along you just gotta make it. This applies to DeRozan so yea, I say if a legit trade( like the Gasol one) comes by you gotta make it
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I hope Derozan and Ed Davis are reading this thread... make you guys regret ever thinking of trading them away..

trading those guys away does not make sense.. Bargs is a guy you trade, he has been here for 5years, you know what he brings..
at the right offer ANYONE is tradeable. no ones making a trade just for the sake of making a trade....
its not a knock on derozan or davis
and if the right offer came up and we made the trade, i don't think anyone would regret anything
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I hope Derozan and Ed Davis are reading this thread... make you guys regret ever thinking of trading them away..

trading those guys away does not make sense.. Bargs is a guy you trade, he has been here for 5years, you know what he brings..
I hope they have a higher comprehension rate than you seem to have right now.

I like both those players, the question is, if essentially someone asked for DeRozan in a trade (and I brought up Davis) would you move him for the RIGHT guy.

Hell, if we could LBJ for DeRozan, all of us would say yep, trade him in a heartbeat. Therefore, he's certainly a tradeable asset for the right price.
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:54 PM   #33 (permalink)
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you guys do realize that Derozan had one of hte best second halfs in the entire NBA, not just among his draft class but his stats are as good as Lebron, Wade etc... the difference is Demar is young and learning how to win,

if Demar can hit a 3 he would become unstoppable, paired with Bargnani who only gets better and a match up nightmare on offense, I see a ton of wins in the future as demar gains more experience and has more quality players around him
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It's not about getting rid of him. It's about asking yourself, is this a moveable piece for the right price. Do we need to be tied to anyone really?
This is exactly the right approach.... We shouldn't be tied to anyone concretely but you need to be open-minded. You don't just shop guys outright, especially with the thinking that your junk is going to net you a great haul in return.

Witch-hunts aren't usually effective in netting a valuable return... and a good deal usually involves giving up an asset to get an asset.
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I hope they have a higher comprehension rate than you seem to have right now.

I like both those players, the question is, if essentially someone asked for DeRozan in a trade (and I brought up Davis) would you move him for the RIGHT guy.

Hell, if we could LBJ for DeRozan, all of us would say yep, trade him in a heartbeat. Therefore, he's certainly a tradeable asset for the right price.
no.. I understand bud
but there is no realistic trade out there that would have me move Derozan
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you guys do realize that Derozan had one of hte best second halfs in the entire NBA, not just among his draft class but his stats are as good as Lebron, Wade etc... the difference is Demar is young and learning how to win,

if Demar can hit a 3 he would become unstoppable, paired with Bargnani who only gets better and a match up nightmare on offense, I see a ton of wins in the future as demar gains more experience and has more quality players around him
His stats aren't as good as Lebron's.... maybe his point totals.
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No way in hell are we giving up DeRozan unless we get a similar talent/potential at the 2 spot.
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Derozan, Bargnani, future pick

for

Gasol, Mayo


I mean they aren't that married to the idea of keeping Mayo anyway. Maybe they think Randolph could make up for Bargnani's lack of rebounding.....but i highly doubt it.

Irving?/Bayless
Mayo/Barbosa
JJ/Kleiza/?
Davis/Amir/Evans?
Gasol/Dorsey/Alabi

Trade Jose in a seperate deal for depth? Absolute pipe dream though. No way in hell this or anything like it will happen.
Um,mayo is better than derozan and gasol is better than Bargnani right now. You could make a case that one day demar will be better, but right now mayo is way more polished and a better defender. Why would they mess up with a good team for a trade that at best is a sideway move?
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you guys do realize that Derozan had one of hte best second halfs in the entire NBA, not just among his draft class but his stats are as good as Lebron, Wade etc... the difference is Demar is young and learning how to win,

if Demar can hit a 3 he would become unstoppable, paired with Bargnani who only gets better and a match up nightmare on offense, I see a ton of wins in the future as demar gains more experience and has more quality players around him
If by stats you mean points, maybe ... Otherwise , the comparison is just silly. Lebron averages 8 rebounds and 8 assists, is the best defender in the league at his position and he's double team almost regularly. Bargnani is close to Dwight howard than demar to lebron ...
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Um,mayo is better than derozan and gasol is better than Bargnani right now. You could make a case that one day demar will be better, but right now mayo is way more polished and a better defender. Why would they mess up with a good team for a trade that at best is a sideway move?
Jeff did say it was a pipe dream. but in some of these trade proposals, its just the case of fans overrating their own players and proposing trades that would benefit us without ever thinking about whether it makes sense for the other team to do that trade.
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