Would this pg help?
Old 06-18-2011, 11:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Strengths: A must see to believe type of talent Possesses incredible open floor speed, which combined with a devastating first step make him a nightmare to defend Tremendous leaping ability and superb body control allow him to finish in the lane over much taller players Gets great lift on his jump-shot, with range well out to the NBA three His pull up jumper is magnificent; with the elevation, balance, and quick release, he is virtually able to shoot whenever, and over whomever he desires He has great intelligence and confidence plus a swagger that makes him an assassin on the floor in heightened situations Is able to get open shots by making good reads and using screens effectively Aggressive attacking the hoop, and extremely adept at getting to the foul line Great hesitation and change of pace dibbles Flash and flamboyance are nicely contrasted with a high basketball IQ and craftiness Has all the tools to become a special player on the NBA level

Weaknesses: Although he has a great feel for the game, his playmaking skills will need to improve to handle the PG spot fulltime His lack of a good wingspan neutralizes his great athleticism to a slight degree, and hinders his ability to defend Although he improved as the season went along, he still settles for the contested jumpshot way too often, adding shot discipline is crucial His shooting motion is a little unorthodox as he sort of shot puts the ball. But it's nothing that needs tampering with as he shoots it the same way every time and very effectively ... At times forces the issue too much, getting out of control and finding himself in traffic with nobody to throw the ball to ... Will need to get stronger and better conditioned, he may have fallen victim to the physical grind, as fatigue settled in at the end of the season, his shot become more inconsistent, dropping his percentages substantially (he did not have a game where he made more than 2 threes in his last 10 outings) His emotions can get the best of him, and at times his frustration renders him completely non-existent on the court He is somewhat turnover prone, but with more experience and maturity it should not be a concern Continues to be plagued by injuries, which raises questions about his durability Despite all of his talent, there are some concerns about his ability to make others better, he has been on underachieving teams in AAU as well as at Arizona, raising the issue of selfishness. Is he a teammate others want to play with? It depends who you ask ... Still has some maturing to do, but is seen as a guy who will ultimately succeed at the NBA level due to his tremendous desire and intelligence ...





Who is it?




Jerryd Bayless.
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Old 06-18-2011, 11:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm confident in Bayless as the starting PG next year.
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Me too,

Just cant see Knight/Walker being any better than a kid with only a few miles but at least having NBA experience running the point.
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Old 06-18-2011, 12:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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If bayless can improve his decision making I think he could thrive and under the right system (Casey?) He can be a very good defender imo.
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Old 06-18-2011, 12:13 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Yeah, I'm fine with Bayless (and Jose) manning the point for yet another rebuilding season. More concerned about shoring up the front court through Kanter, Val or Bismack. But if Knight falls into our laps, might be awfully difficult to pass.
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I like Bayless from what I saw from him last year. At times it seems he is a bit selfish though. I think we just need to give him more starts and he will get better at the role of PG. Next year is another rebuilding year anyways
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Old 06-18-2011, 12:18 PM   #7 (permalink)
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I'm admittedly a big fan of Bayless. I like his skill set and think with the proper coaching could be a very good to excellent PG. His progression to date reminds me a lot of Chauncey Billups' progress and he has the same mentality as Billups.
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Old 06-18-2011, 12:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Yeah, I'm fine with Bayless (and Jose) manning the point for yet another rebuilding season. More concerned about shoring up the front court through Kanter, Val or Bismack. But if Knight falls into our laps, might be awfully difficult to pass.
Good lord I pray we don't go another year with Calderon on this team.
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Good lord I pray we don't go another year with Calderon on this team.
Me too. Its best for both him and the team to part ways.
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Good lord I pray we don't go another year with Calderon on this team.
Why?

On a team with many young players who arent going to win the championship next year having a player like Jose who is without a doubt a great teammate, a great guy and a person who will always put aside personal aspirations in order to better benefit the team as a whole? Guys like that like are not only apreciated by the team as a whole but are also needed.
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Why?

On a team with many young players who arent going to win the championship next year having a player like Jose who is without a doubt a great teammate, a great guy and a person who will always put aside personal aspirations in order to better benefit the team as a whole? Guys like that like are not only apreciated by the team as a whole but are also needed.
Plus he'll have one year left on his contract at the end of the season so he'll be more attractive trade-wise as an expiring contract next year than he would be if we tried to trade him this offseason.
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Why?

On a team with many young players who arent going to win the championship next year having a player like Jose who is without a doubt a great teammate, a great guy and a person who will always put aside personal aspirations in order to better benefit the team as a whole? Guys like that like are not only apreciated by the team as a whole but are also needed.
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Old 06-18-2011, 07:48 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I like Bayless. He is still raw in some aspects as he needs to work on his shooting and Basketball IQ but he can be a solid player for us in the next couple of years after working his ass of in the gym (hoping!). Jose's contract is too big to get rid of now and we also shouldn't be thinking about trading him this year. If we don't get a PG in this draft, then we are screwed with only Bayless on the roster as a PG. If we do manage to get walker to Knight, then they would need some one to show them the ropes that is when Jose comes in place. The guy is a good player, an unselfish team-mate and is willing to help other guys out. After next year (if there is one), we should be looking to trade him as he is then an expiring contract and it will be much more manageable. Getting rid of him now will be a really dumb move.
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Old 06-18-2011, 08:19 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I like it when Bayless is asked if he likes being a combo guard or not, he always responds I am a PG and only a PG.
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Old 06-18-2011, 10:39 PM   #15 (permalink)
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bayless was hot for a short bit, more towards the end of the season ( i guess less pressure) but those 30 point games were pretty impressive.
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Old 06-18-2011, 10:45 PM   #16 (permalink)
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One problem with Bayless is that he is so inconsistent. Only as a starter he preformed well. Off the bench, he usually failed to get into the flow of the game.

Maybe the new coach should try bringing Bayless off the bench in a 6th man kind of role (looks like Barbosa might be gone)?
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Old 06-19-2011, 02:49 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Jose IS our glue guy and one of the better point guards and more importantly, one of the better teammates in the league. He loves Toronto, wants to spend his whole career here and is appreciated by everyone. If you want the Dallas comparison, since everyone's is expecting Dwayne Casey, he's our Jason Kidd; level-headed, a great playmaker, unselfish, dedicated and can hit the open three. Plus, although many people on here would disagree, I saw Jose bust his ass playing defence quite a bit this year, and no, that doesn't mean he'll always be able to stay in front of his man, but he's no pylon. (Plus with the amount of zone we'll be playing it will minimize his sub-par defence even further)

I find it insulting how many people on here take his game for granted. If Jose improves his conditioning, he could very plausibly put up 12/2/10 with close to 90/50/40 percentages, a steal and a top 3 assist-to-turnover ratio. There are hardly 20 players in the league who could hope to have those stats. If/When he does get traded, I would be pretty damn upset if we didn't get quite a bit of compensation for him. Man knows how to ball.
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Jose IS our glue guy and one of the better point guards and more importantly, one of the better teammates in the league. He loves Toronto, wants to spend his whole career here and is appreciated by everyone. If you want the Dallas comparison, since everyone's is expecting Dwayne Casey, he's our Jason Kidd; level-headed, a great playmaker, unselfish, dedicated and can hit the open three. Plus, although many people on here would disagree, I saw Jose bust his ass playing defence quite a bit this year, and no, that doesn't mean he'll always be able to stay in front of his man, but he's no pylon. (Plus with the amount of zone we'll be playing it will minimize his sub-par defence even further)

I find it insulting how many people on here take his game for granted. If Jose improves his conditioning, he could very plausibly put up 12/2/10 with close to 90/50/40 percentages, a steal and a top 3 assist-to-turnover ratio. There are hardly 20 players in the league who could hope to have those stats. If/When he does get traded, I would be pretty damn upset if we didn't get quite a bit of compensation for him. Man knows how to ball.
Calderon isn't anywhere close to Jason Kidd despite Kidd being older. Kidd just has a great feel for the game both offensively and defensively. He still makes unreal passes, and he's very good defensively. Kidd doesn't shoot the ball as well as Calderon, but he showed a propensity to make huge buckets in the playoffs.

Calderon, meanwhile, has terrible defensive instincts. It not just his inability to play man-on-man defence but he overhelps and sags too deep, leaving his man wide-open for shots.

Offensively, he has a tough time getting by his man in one-on-one situations. Many of his assists come from making the easy, safe pass. As such, his assist numbers don't truly tell a person how overrated Calderon is offensively.

Yes, he can shoot the ball when he chooses to and he doesn't turn the ball over frequently. However, he's not a great lead guard. He would be better coming off the bench or moving to a system where he can be the fourth or fifth option on offence, as oppose to the #2 or #3 option.

For a team that is rebuilding and needs playmakers, the Raptors need to look in other directions at the PG position. Bayless has a higher ceiling than Calderon and more room to grow. I think he could be the answer. I'm fine with Calderon staying with the team as the backup PG to help Bayless, but would Calderon want to be the backup? And can the Raptors afford to pay a backup PG $9M?
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Old 06-19-2011, 09:54 AM   #19 (permalink)
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If we draft a PG, then Jose needs to go ... but frankly, I'm totally fine with Jose staying.
He is a good team player and a vet. We're not going any where fast towards a championship .. some vets are clearly needed on a team.
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Old 06-19-2011, 11:04 AM   #20 (permalink)
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i'm looking forward to seeing his improvements for next season. he comes across as a player who is going to keep improving different facets of his game between seasons.

if we don't go in the direction of drafting a point guard, which is a strong possibility, it's most likely because the staff have strong confidence in him stepping up for next season. the more i read about the prospects i have a hard time believing that they're any level above the type of player bayless could become. yeah, pretty safe sounding statement lol

regardless if it's knight, walker or bayless next season, i wouldn't mind us picking up a point-forward calibre player via trade (caleron - diaw perhaps). these three points have an outstanding ability to put the ball in the basket, so why not utilize their ability by having a second distributor out on the court with them.
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