Which would make the biggest difference this season.

ollyaaa · 11-25-2012, 09:39 PM

This should be interesting.

Beans · 11-25-2012, 09:54 PM

In my fantasy world if you get rid of Colangelo then Bargs is as good as gone. Seven years of Colangelo bullshit is enough.

Metallikid · 11-25-2012, 09:55 PM

It'll be Bargs because he's just one player and as an individual move it would be the best; getting rid of BC or Casey impacts a lot more decisions.

jeffb · 11-25-2012, 09:55 PM

I'm not willing to give up on Casey. Hell a month ago I was a fan. I'm not thrilled with him right now but it's a little early for me. Bargnani has to go and if possible, the other pylon as well.

DonMughal · 11-25-2012, 10:09 PM

I'm supporting Casey all the way, I know what he's capable of and I know he's a hard worker.

I'm just wondering where the fuck the defence is and what he's thinking with his rotations. Leaving Ed Davis on the bench was one of his worst calls ever working for us. Did you expect Bargs to play better than Ed Davis was playing? My goodness.

@BaileysBlitz · 11-25-2012, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb

I'm not willing to give up on Casey. Hell a month ago I was a fan. I'm not thrilled with him right now but it's a little early for me. Bargnani has to go and if possible, the other pylon as well.

I @BaileysBlitz, co-sign this post!

ollyaaa · 11-25-2012, 10:20 PM

Looks like it's not a very popular choice but I voted fire Casey.

To me, BC has done his job with this roster (to some extent) and for Bargs, the sky is the limit, and I don't think the coach is using him or any of our other players are well as others would.

**Ball Don't Lie** · 11-25-2012, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by ollyaaa

Looks like it's not a very popular choice but I voted fire Casey.

To me, BC has done his job with this roster (to some extent) and for Bargs, the sky is the limit, and I don't think the coach is using him or any of our other players are well as others would.

Hi Brian.

TORaptor4Ever · 11-25-2012, 10:32 PM

Bargs first.

Then BC in the offseason.

ollyaaa · 11-25-2012, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by thriller92

Hi Brian.

Ha ha that really did make me laugh out loud.

Seriously though, BC drafted JV which we all hated at the time. T Ross looks nice.

Truth be told, I like to see Casey and BC gone.

LX · 11-25-2012, 10:53 PM

If he trades Bargnani then BC gets some more leash. He might even be a whole new person.

BryanColangelo · 11-25-2012, 11:43 PM

This poll is flawed. Getting rid of Bargnani is not a seperate option. I will not move him. You need to fire me first; then the dominos will fall.

BryanColangelo · 11-25-2012, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by thriller92

Hi Brian.

It's "Bryan." Just sayin'.

@BaileysBlitz · 11-25-2012, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanColangelo

This poll is flawed. Getting rid of Bargnani is not a seperate option. I will not move him. You need to fire me first; then the dominos will fall.

Now that we have your attention Bryan,I have two questions

1. Why would you sign Landry Fields to an overpaid contract,not being 100% sure that by cockblocking the Knicks,that Steve Nash would just give up and sign with the Raptors?

2. Why would you trade your first round pick for Kyle Lowry,when the Rockets were offering him and the 16th overall pick for the #8th? Then draft Terrence Ross at 8th when you could've likely drafted him at 16th,but now that you drafted him the team rarely uses him?

Another question while I'm at it, why didn't you instruct Dwayne Casey to lose on the final game of last season,a meaningless one, to secure a projected chance at drafting 6th,which eventually would've led the Raptors to drafting Harrison Barnes or Damian Lilliard?

That's all

Bill Haverchuck · 11-26-2012, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by @BaileysBlitz

Now that we have your attention Bryan,I have two questions

I heard Bryan doesn't stay up past midnight, so I doubt he'll answer these questions. But I would like to address at least one of them.

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2. Why would you trade your first round pick for Kyle Lowry,when the Rockets were offering him and the 16th overall pick for the #8th? Then draft Terrence Ross at 8th when you could've likely drafted him at 16th,but now that you drafted him the team rarely uses him?

That was a rumour. You're being silly if you believe that they actually offered Lowry and the 16th for just the 8th. It's silly. Silly. Silly. Silly.

@BaileysBlitz · 11-26-2012, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Haverchuck

I heard Bryan doesn't stay up past midnight, so I doubt he'll answer these questions. But I would like to address at least one of them.

That was a rumour. You're being silly if you believe that they actually offered Lowry and the 16th for just the 8th. It's silly. Silly. Silly. Silly.

Lol...

I believe its not completely fabricated. The reason they would likely pass on that deal at the time was because they felt they had a very strong chance at signing Nash so trading for Lowry at that point would've given them 3 starting PG's on the roster potentially (Lowry,Calderon & Nash).

Whether its true or not,the pursuit of 38 year old Steve Nash really hurt this team in the offseason. In hindsight,it was a poor strategy because realistically the furthest the Raptors probably could've advanced this season was the first round of the playoffs,with Nash.

creative1mm · 11-26-2012, 12:41 AM

Bargs.. move him,
he was 2-19, but didn't adjust his game at all, just kept on shooting.. move him and Calderon.. absolutely terrible down the stretch, 5sec call, and the turnover on the inbound geez

IGetAir · 11-26-2012, 01:06 AM

I voted fire BC because I feel as though he's done more harm then good with every situation he's been in. Unless he trades Bargnani (and I understand waiting for the right deal makes sense) I won't give him any leeway.

If we fire BC, the new GM will trade Bargs.

Raptors1995 · 11-26-2012, 01:44 AM

I'm all for trading Bargnani and think it's about time we did. If you're looking purely from the standpoint of wins, acquirng a wing player for Calderon and Ross would be better. Just an example, our existing roster, plus Granger if healthy, would lead to more wins. The problem is that there's just not much of a market out there. The wings that were available over the summer are no longer available/traded. I know Bargnani has value, but I don't think too many teams are interested this early. He needs to start shooting the ball better and injuries to PF's on other teams could increase his value. The only danger of waiting for Bargnani to improve is knowing Colangelo, he may hold on to him.

BigMan93 · 11-26-2012, 01:49 AM

Fire BC get rid of Bargs and Casey, and hire Phil was a joke......

View Poll Results: Which would have the biggest impact on our W column.
Fire BC	11	17.19%
Fire Casey	7	10.94%
Get rid of Bargs	36	56.25%
Other	10	15.63%
Voters: 64. You may not vote on this poll

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11-25-2012, 09:54 PM	#2 (permalink)
Beans is full of beans Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Victoria BC Posts: 2,570 Representing:	In my fantasy world if you get rid of Colangelo then Bargs is as good as gone. Seven years of Colangelo bullshit is enough.

11-25-2012, 09:55 PM	#3 (permalink)
Metallikid is we may as well be the Queens Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 1,302 Representing:	It'll be Bargs because he's just one player and as an individual move it would be the best; getting rid of BC or Casey impacts a lot more decisions.

11-25-2012, 09:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
jeffb is raptors next gm Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: YO MAMMA Posts: 57,154 Representing:	I'm not willing to give up on Casey. Hell a month ago I was a fan. I'm not thrilled with him right now but it's a little early for me. Bargnani has to go and if possible, the other pylon as well.

11-25-2012, 10:09 PM	#5 (permalink)
DonMughal is the boss Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Mississauga Posts: 2,968 Representing:	I'm supporting Casey all the way, I know what he's capable of and I know he's a hard worker. I'm just wondering where the fuck the defence is and what he's thinking with his rotations. Leaving Ed Davis on the bench was one of his worst calls ever working for us. Did you expect Bargs to play better than Ed Davis was playing? My goodness.

11-25-2012, 10:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
ollyaaa is pounding the rock! Raptor Fan Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 386 Representing:	Looks like it's not a very popular choice but I voted fire Casey. To me, BC has done his job with this roster (to some extent) and for Bargs, the sky is the limit, and I don't think the coach is using him or any of our other players are well as others would.

11-25-2012, 10:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
TORaptor4Ever is embracing change Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 15,063 Representing:	Bargs first. Then BC in the offseason.

11-25-2012, 10:53 PM	#11 (permalink)
LX is boycotting boy cots In the Paint Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Posts: 23,260 Representing:	If he trades Bargnani then BC gets some more leash. He might even be a whole new person.

11-25-2012, 11:43 PM	#12 (permalink)
BryanColangelo is thanking Jeff for the support Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 58 Representing:	This poll is flawed. Getting rid of Bargnani is not a seperate option. I will not move him. You need to fire me first; then the dominos will fall.

11-26-2012, 12:41 AM	#17 (permalink)
creative1mm is a Raps fan Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Mississauga Posts: 754 Representing:	Bargs.. move him, he was 2-19, but didn't adjust his game at all, just kept on shooting.. move him and Calderon.. absolutely terrible down the stretch, 5sec call, and the turnover on the inbound geez

11-26-2012, 01:06 AM	#18 (permalink)
IGetAir is waiting for news that Bargs has been traded. Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 119 Representing:	I voted fire BC because I feel as though he's done more harm then good with every situation he's been in. Unless he trades Bargnani (and I understand waiting for the right deal makes sense) I won't give him any leeway. If we fire BC, the new GM will trade Bargs.

11-26-2012, 01:44 AM	#19 (permalink)
Raptors1995 is it's time to empty the trash Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,025 Representing:	I'm all for trading Bargnani and think it's about time we did. If you're looking purely from the standpoint of wins, acquirng a wing player for Calderon and Ross would be better. Just an example, our existing roster, plus Granger if healthy, would lead to more wins. The problem is that there's just not much of a market out there. The wings that were available over the summer are no longer available/traded. I know Bargnani has value, but I don't think too many teams are interested this early. He needs to start shooting the ball better and injuries to PF's on other teams could increase his value. The only danger of waiting for Bargnani to improve is knowing Colangelo, he may hold on to him.

11-26-2012, 01:49 AM	#20 (permalink)
BigMan93 is OKC Champs Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: court Posts: 111 Representing:	Fire BC get rid of Bargs and Casey, and hire Phil was a joke......