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jeffb 12-06-2012 12:56 AM

Will Colangelo have the balls to trade Il Mago?
 
I've always said i've liked Colangelo because he's active and has the ability to trade his mistakes pretty quickly. Well, Bargnani has always been a completely different story and he clearly needs to go. IMO, as much for him and the team needs to move on from this era. I don't know if all the losing the last 4 years has made him just not care, but his comments about not working on his shot (the one thing he's useful for), and his "it's not rebound ball" comment should have sounded alarm bells.

Bargs and Calderon both need to go but Bargnani moreso. So will Colangrlo trade him or go down not swinging?

Gurk 12-06-2012 12:57 AM

He will, he has to at this point, if he doesn't he is without a job, at this point he will be reaching for the straws if he even wants a chance to keep his job.

Dario 12-06-2012 12:57 AM

Will our office have the balls to fire Colangelo?

Gurk 12-06-2012 01:00 AM

I think before he trades Bargs he will fire DC and see what happens with that first.

Stonezz 12-06-2012 01:01 AM

I actually think DC is safe this year. no matter how bad our record is.

To answer the question, I dont think BC will trade Bargs.

INSIDER 12-06-2012 01:01 AM

Nope. We're stuck with this chucker.
I don't think I can watch anymore games and putting myself through the torture.

Raptors1995 12-06-2012 01:03 AM

I thought we had this one

Blaze 12-06-2012 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by INSIDER (Post 715453)
Nope. We're stuck with this chucker.
I don't think I can watch anymore games and putting myself through the torture.

There's actually no better way to describe it. What makes it worse is that were always in the game so there's a chance of winning, which there actually isn't.

The MVP of West Hollywood 12-06-2012 01:03 AM

Unfortunately BC is choosing between offers along the lines of Wilson Chandler or Emeka Okafor for Bargs :lol:

Both Denver and Washington could use an Al Harrington type PF who can shoot and space off the floor. That's basically Bargs at this point

TORaptor4Ever 12-06-2012 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Stonezz (Post 715452)
I actually think DC is safe this year. no matter how bad our record is.

To answer the question, I dont think BC will trade Bargs.

I agree. BC would look like a complete asshole if he fired DC just 1.5 yrs after singing his praises.

Bargs HAS to go.

It's his only move at this point (unless mgmnt fires BC before he gets the chance).

Tommy C 12-06-2012 01:04 AM

Lets not fool ourselves. It's not only BC it's the whole front office.

fresh n' spicy 12-06-2012 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by The MVP of West Hollywood (Post 715457)
Unfortunately BC is choosing between offers along the lines of Wilson Chandler or Emeka Okafor for Bargs :lol:

Both Denver and Washington could use an Al Harrington type PF who can shoot and space off the floor. That's basically Bargs at this point

um is that sarcasm? Those are actually decent offers for bargs i would trade him away for either okafor or wilson chandler in a heartbeat if the offer presented itself..

Bill Haverchuck 12-06-2012 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by fresh n' spicy (Post 715465)
um is that sarcasm? Those are actually decent offers for bargs i would trade him away for either okafor or wilson chandler in a heartbeat if the offer presented itself..

No, he's serious. He mentioned Okafor before. I, personally, disagree that it's a good trade though, because I'd much rather just play Ed instead of Okafor. Before making an Okafor deal, I'd move Bargnani to the bench and just play him fewer minutes. The games in which his shot is falling, you play him decent minutes with the second unit. The games Bargs shot is not falling, you keep giving Ed 30+ minutes. I mean, think about it, if the Raps had played Ed more tonight, there is a possibility they keep their momentum going and win the game.

No need to make a trade for redundant players or bad contracts. Just get talent we need in a trade. If we can't, then trade for an expiring or move Bargs to the bench.

fresh n' spicy 12-06-2012 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Haverchuck (Post 715493)
No, he's serious. He mentioned Okafor before. I, personally, disagree that it's a good trade though, because I'd much rather just play Ed instead of Okafor. Before making an Okafor deal, I'd move Bargnani to the bench and just play him fewer minutes. The games in which his shot is falling, you play him decent minutes with the second unit. The games Bargs shot is not falling, you keep giving Ed 30+ minutes. I mean, think about it, if the Raps had played Ed more tonight, there is a possibility they keep their momentum going and win the game.

No need to make a trade for redundant players or bad contracts. Just get talent we need in a trade. If we can't, then trade for an expiring or move Bargs to the bench.

I agree with your assessment completely, but I just want bargs gone asap. While he may be better than okafor / chandler, trading him will guarantee him not playing for the raps. For some reason dwayne casey can't get it through his thick skull that bargs is not a star player a.k.a "a hub".

As long as dwayne is coaching this team he will give bargs 30+ minutes a game. I like casey as a coach don't get me wrong, but for some reason he does not know how to handle Bargnani properly, bargs is a cancer to this team and as long as he is playing starters minutes we will never get anywhere.

Ball Don't Lie 12-06-2012 01:24 AM

Another pathetic year with Bargnani around for its entirety and BC making excuses for him is in the cards. He'll be on this team forever.

jeffb 12-06-2012 01:32 AM

Seriously, trade Bargs/Calderon for the best package possible and move the fuck on!

MBailey85 12-06-2012 01:40 AM

I think he has the balls to trade Bargnani but won't do it yet because he would be admitting that he fucked up by drafting him #1 overall which is inexcusable to get that pick wrong,but AB wasn't a bad pick. He's just not a fit for this team at the moment and moving forward. I think BC is waiting for AB to put together a two week string of good games so he can get the most in return for him. That's why they're forcing the minutes even when he's struggling,but the losses are killing the morale and a trade must be made before Christmas.

jeffb 12-06-2012 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by @BaileysBlitz (Post 715527)
I think he has the balls to trade Bargnani but won't do it yet because he would be admitting that he fucked up by drafting him #1 overall which is inexcusable to get that pick wrong

As much as i hate Bargnani right now, other than Aldridge who played the same position as Bosh at the time there wasn't going to be anyone else picked there. Take a good lookt at the top 6 in that draft. It's putrid. Adam Morrisson, Sheldon Williams, POB, Tyrus Thomas....all lottery picks.

Dario 12-06-2012 01:43 AM

i dont know how hard it is to trade 2 guys -_-

carp 12-06-2012 01:45 AM

I hope we keep Bargnani... I fear the demise of RF without him.


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