Will Chris Bosh ever lead a team to the 2nd round?
Old 10-18-2009, 06:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have a feeling that he might not be able to, he has to be a second or third option and I don't think he will accept this.

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Old 10-18-2009, 06:29 PM   #2 (permalink)
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It all depends who is around of him ... but if you ask me, I could say he can lead a team in the second round. No matter where Bosh goes, he will demand double team and if he is playing along with other star that demands double team as well, then is very difficult to say who is the first option on that team, CB4 or the other star. I guess there are a small number of players that can eventually make CB4 a second option (LeBron, Kobe, Wade).
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Old 10-18-2009, 06:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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What about Garnett? He missed the 2nd round 7 or 8 straight years.

He needed 2 other all-stars and maybe hall of famers to do it.

Maybe Garnett will never LEAD a team to the 2nd round either. Maybe he's a scrub.
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What about Garnett? He missed the 2nd round 7 or 8 straight years.

He needed 2 other all-stars and maybe hall of famers to do it.

Maybe Garnett will never LEAD a team to the 2nd round either. Maybe he's a scrub.
Or you could say that Pierce is the option one .... so yes, Garnett looks like a scrub! LOL
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KG is a million times better than Bosh and KG played in a much tougher conference than Bosh.

Bosh lacks drive.

Bosh will not lead a team to the second round and should be traded during the season or via sign and trade at the end.

When Reggie is back, him with Jose,Derozan,Turk and Bargs would beat a team of Jose,Derozan,Turk, Bargs and Bosh.

Starting lineup needs a guy who plays tough.
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KG is a million times better than Bosh and KG played in a much tougher conference than Bosh.

Bosh lacks drive.

Bosh will not lead a team to the second round and should be traded during the season or via sign and trade at the end.

When Reggie is back, him with Jose,Derozan,Turk and Bargs would beat a team of Jose,Derozan,Turk, Bargs and Bosh.

Starting lineup needs a guy who plays tough.
Go to a Minnesota forum and read old comments about Garnett. Everyone was ripping him saying he was a stats guy etc. etc. Exactly what you guys are saying about Bosh.


You could say that... or you could say a team of Calderon/Turk/Bosh/Evans would beat the starters. 20/10 guys don't grow on trees.
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Old 10-18-2009, 06:47 PM   #7 (permalink)
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KG is a million times better than Bosh and KG played in a much tougher conference than Bosh.

Bosh lacks drive.

Bosh will not lead a team to the second round and should be traded during the season or via sign and trade at the end.

When Reggie is back, him with Jose,Derozan,Turk and Bargs would beat a team of Jose,Derozan,Turk, Bargs and Bosh.

Starting lineup needs a guy who plays tough.
Good example of this was last season when Bosh was injured and we beat San Antonio, Barg's took most of the offensive load and Jermaine O'Neal also scored most of the points as well, but you could see that we played a lot more organized without always giving Bosh the ball at 17 feet and letting him dictate what happens.
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Old 10-18-2009, 06:47 PM   #8 (permalink)
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What about Garnett? He missed the 2nd round 7 or 8 straight years.

He needed 2 other all-stars and maybe hall of famers to do it.

Maybe Garnett will never LEAD a team to the 2nd round either. Maybe he's a scrub.
Damn straight!

I think he can co-lead. Kobe had to, Shaq had to, D-Wade had to, it may be that LeBron will have to.

Bosh needs a high level star with a completely different skill set than his, i.e. a slasher, ball handler. Unfortunately, that type of player quit on his team and left town a couple years ago.
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Old 10-18-2009, 06:52 PM   #9 (permalink)
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This was the game,

NBA - San Antonio Spurs/Toronto Raptors Box Score Wednesday February 11, 2009 - Yahoo! Sports

As you can see, O'Neal played tough solid D and had 10 boards and 6 blocks against one of the best players in the league and Bargnani had 23 points (bad shooting though) But the tough guy on the front line makes a huge difference!
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Or you could say that Pierce is the option one .... so yes, Garnett looks like a scrub! LOL
Pierce never led Boston anywhere either before the other two showed up. In fact things were so bad up until the 07 offseason in Boston that it was rumoured Pierce wanted out.
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bosh leading a team to second maybe, Bargs on the other hand absolutely!
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Old 10-18-2009, 07:09 PM   #12 (permalink)
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What about Garnett? He missed the 2nd round 7 or 8 straight years.

He needed 2 other all-stars and maybe hall of famers to do it.

Maybe Garnett will never LEAD a team to the 2nd round either. Maybe he's a scrub.

Garnett lead the T-Wolves to the second round in 2004. Granted, it was his 9th season in the league. Maybe it will take Bosh 9 seasons as well before he's able to make the 2nd round.
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Old 10-18-2009, 07:11 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Bosh needs more stars around him.
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Bosh needs more stars around him.
But with his salary I don't think it can happen. I think he is overpaid.

With the touches he gets during the course of a full game, other superstars would likely be able to average 35ppg and 15 boards a game. He has been put into a role that he (and his team) cannot succeed in.
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I'm pretty sure Garnett put the Timberwolves in the conference finals when he had Sprewell and Cassell as teammates, in 2003-04 and lost to the Lakers. I think we have a better team around Bosh today. Unfortunately, I doubt Bosh does what Garnett did with that team and I hate Garnett so the last thing I want to do is praise him.

I also hope we're not referring to Cassell and Sprewell as potential hall of famers. Cassell was a great player, but far past his prime. Sprewell was a good player and even further past his prime. I don't think either of them warranted all-star consideration in that season either, though you can correct me if I'm wrong.
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Will highonpis ever stop bitching about Bosh?
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Pierce never led Boston anywhere either before the other two showed up. In fact things were so bad up until the 07 offseason in Boston that it was rumoured Pierce wanted out.
Yeah, I recall Pierce going to the conference finals or quarter finals with Antoine Walker by his side. So I don't think that's a fair assessment of Pierce's history with Boston, pre-Garnett.
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Trade Bosh for Biedrins+Jackson..
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I'm pretty sure Garnett put the Timberwolves in the conference finals when he had Sprewell and Cassell as teammates, in 2003-04 and lost to the Lakers. I think we have a better team around Bosh today. Unfortunately, I doubt Bosh does what Garnett did with that team and I hate Garnett so the last thing I want to do is praise him.

I also hope we're not referring to Cassell and Sprewell as potential hall of famers. Cassell was a great player, but far past his prime. Sprewell was a good player and even further past his prime. I don't think either of them warranted all-star consideration in that season either, though you can correct me if I'm wrong.
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KG's 8th year (he came into the league out of high school) So almost the same as Bosh's developement. He lead them to 58 wins and took them to the conference finals.
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Will highonpis ever stop bitching about Bosh?
not 'til he's gone or grows balls.
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