Why We Didn't See or Hear Much From Benson During SL - Page 2
Old 07-23-2008, 02:39 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I'd actually venture and say that is more on the players than on the coaching staff. It's up to the players if they want to come out and play hungry. Alot of the times the players out there seemed to lackadaisical.

Smitch had really nothing to do with this. If anything, you could argue his coaching skills came through when in the second quarter we would come back from a poor start.
Well it could be, but having read what Bosh said about our PGs being lost in attack because all the guys were out of their position, I just think that they were confused running a new system.

Just some numbers of the first quarters of those series and who where the starters:

Game1: TJ, Parker, Bargs, Bosh, Rasho (23-43) road
Game2: TJ, Parker, Bargs, Bosh, Rasho (18-35) road
Game3: TJ, Parker, Moon, Bosh, Bargs (20-28) home
Game4: TJ, Parker, Moon, Bosh, Bargs (31-26) home
Game5: TJ, Parker, Moon, Bosh, Bargs (26-22) road

It's curious, we defended and attacked better with the last line up.

And I still think that Rasho should be the starter center, he was the guy who was saving our asses at the end of the RS.

Look, I'm not saying that it was a bad or a good system (that's other discussion), I just say that don't mess with things which has performed well, and less when you are at the playoffs facing a team that you played well at the RS . That's a no sense.
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Old 07-23-2008, 02:53 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Well it could be, but having read what Bosh said about our PGs being lost in attack because all the guys were out of their position, I just think that they were confused running a new system.

Just some numbers of the first quarters of those series and who where the starters:

Game1: TJ, Parker, Bargs, Bosh, Rasho (23-43) road
Game2: TJ, Parker, Bargs, Bosh, Rasho (18-35) road
Game3: TJ, Parker, Moon, Bosh, Bargs (20-28) home
Game4: TJ, Parker, Moon, Bosh, Bargs (31-26) home
Game5: TJ, Parker, Moon, Bosh, Bargs (26-22) road

It's curious, we defended and attacked better with the last line up.

And I still think that Rasho should be the starter center, he was the guy who was saving our asses at the end of the RS.

Look, I'm not saying that it was a bad or a good system (that's other discussion), I just say that don't mess with things which has performed well, and less when you are at the playoffs facing a team that you played well at the RS . That's a no sense.
Or, you could say you throw something at them that they haven't seen before because you too are struggling and Orlando was looking strong. Alot of people were harping on the team it was because of the line up shuffle we lost. We lost more so because they couldn't miss a damn shot in game one.

Why not attempt a mismatch on the wing with Andrea? If it worked we'd all be applauding at how brilliant the Smitch is. And also, you could argue we attacked and defended better with the last line up, however we still lost and only really won, one game out of five. So it really doesn't matter because the end result was the same. A loss.

I'm not saying that Smitch is the most brilliant of coaches, hell I don't have a high opinion of him at all, however, alot of what went wrong last season was on the players. Delfino took bad shots; Andrea took bad shots; Bosh took how many 3 pointers?; TJ started to look for himself; Calderon disappeared in March/April; Bosh went on to make movies....are all those Sam's fault too?

Hell, the team barely hustled out there, ball movement shut down. What can the coach do if the players don't listen?

And they had plenty of time to install a new system, again, it's up to the players to execute. I've played basketball many times and I know that if you want to install a new system it should take a few days; the only problem is if players don't listen and that to me is something that may have happened.

But enough, stalling on the past.
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Old 07-23-2008, 03:37 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Not to take away from what's been a good discussion here...but I'm going to turn the talk back to Benson for a minute (surprised?)

On the Yahoo chat, Matt Moore, who was attending and reporting on the summer league, mentioned that he had been told by NBA execs that Rod's blog is actually really hurting his chances of signing with an NBA team.

Is this legitimate?

On one hand, you look at Gilbert's blog and think how bad can it be? If the guy can play then sign him up.

On the other hand, Benson's blog isn't league sanctioned, so anything goes over there. And he has in the past put things up that certain people may well consider distasteful. I mean, lots of you guys hate Gilbert for his attitude on his blog or Bosh for making those videos...and Benson takes all of that to a whole nother level. Not to mention he appears to spend more time on it than the rest.

But then again, he would be an end of the bench guy unlike Chris and Gil. And the blog is a form promotion, and we've all seen how popular lots of bench guys can become.

How would you guys, as a GM, feel about that issue?
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Arenas and Bosh have proven themselves hence why the blogs and videos are more accepting. What has Benson done? Nothing. So I can see why some would have their reservations regarding him.

He seems to be trying to win himself a contract by being funny.
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He seems to be trying to win himself a contract by being funny.
I think that's a bit harsh Doc, don't you think?

He's not stupid. He's well aware that the blog can hardly have a positive impact on a contract situation.

I'd say it's more like trying to win himself a contract while being funny.

Which still might not be the best way to go about it...
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If I'm not wrong, Bargnani hadn't played any game that season at the SF spot.

Rasho looked like he could slow down DH (that was what I saw at the RS, and when DH killed us at RS, was the time Rasho was on the bench.

Moon was the guy who had given us some defense.

Mix up that all and you get this:

At the defense: A team who has a guy out of position instead a guy who defended well. And Rasho having to rotate with Bargs (Rasho was most at the top of the key than around the basket).

At the offense: For sure, less shots for Rasho who was almost our guy to go at the end of the season. He was out of his position too.

I think it's fair to say that some of those things were clear before the game started.



And don't think that guys didn't listen him, he shouts too much , no, seriously, if that was true, then BC should fire all of them, or at least to fire the coach (the easy exit).
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Maybe so Swag, but I'm not big on self promotion. I mean, I guess you gotta do what you gotta do to get noticed, but I'm just curious to know whether he puts as much effort into his training and practicing as he does his blogs.
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Maybe so Swag, but I'm not big on self promotion. I mean, I guess you gotta do what you gotta do to get noticed, but I'm just curious to know whether he puts as much effort into his training and practicing as he does his blogs.
Let's assume he's got a fairly standard work ethic and effort level for an NBA player though, as there is no real reason to assume he doesn't. (I've never heard it questioned)

Does the actual (and potential) content of the blog and the fact that the team has little control over it prevent you from offering this guy a contract?
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Let's assume he's got a fairly standard work ethic and effort level for an NBA player though, as there is no real reason to assume he doesn't. (I've never heard it questioned)

Does the actual (and potential) content of the blog and the fact that the team has little control over it prevent you from offering this guy a contract?
No it shouldnt. Any any half way intelligent GM wouldnt let it.
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