hirmak

I'd rather trade Calderon than Bargs or Hedo.He's the worst in this team and doesn't deserve to play.And what'd U say for that??

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Premiere

Best post I've seen all weekend

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raptor123

This team needs to have Jose have the ball more in his hands. His d is shit but then he can blow by his guys when he wants to. Hedo is way overated. Bargs keps getting hosed bythe refs. How can I guy play d when he gets to close to a player they give him a foul. We lost this game because Bargs played only 26 mins not enough for us to win. We score more points when he is on the floor. Finally Bargs was our best rebounder today. Refs have a hard on for italians lol.

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Acie

Maybe if Bargs hadn't been channeling Milt Palacio on the offensive end he would've stayed in the game longer.

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gochi

yeah, but its very unlikely that a team would pay as much as we are paying for calderone, plus packaging him with other players (bargs,turk,jack,bosh) would give us a better return.

Ex.

To raps:
Martin
Udrich

To kings:
jose
jack
rasho
1st round pick
cash

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ArmChairGM

I'm soooooo loving the Milt Palacio reference.

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oneironaught

Are you clowning?..Kevin Martin has a broken wrist and is basically another high volume outside shooter.

GET THAT GAHBAGE OUTTA HERE!

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zachus

What a load! Udrih is a downgrade from Calderon when Calderon's playing on one leg. Not to mention his defense is probably at the same level.

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zachus

Bargs is an extremely talented 7-footer who can shoot and handle the ball. When he gets into mid-season form and the refs start to give him some respect he'll be good for 20/7 a night, a bargain at $10 mil per.

Turk was brought over because we needed a creator and a guy that could hit the big shot at the end of the shot clock and late in games. As I mentioned earlier in this thread he hasn't been utilized anywhere near as much as I thought he would be, and it's extremely frustrating. I was so excited to see him run the PNR with Bargs/Bosh, there was so much talk about it, yet PNR sets have been few and far between. Frankly, I'm also starting to wonder why they signed him if they're not going to tailor the offense to fit his strengths.

The merit is there for both signings. I'm confident Bargnani will come through eventually. It's up to the coaching staff to justify the Turkoglu signing, because he's been totally under-utilized thus far.

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jeffb

I think you dropped something.

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pigspigs76

meh I am fine with the Raptors right now... but the Horizon is looking kinda gray...

Jose, not gonna lie seems distracted and old... Jack so far is not looking like a fit in T.O... Brags not improving his game to the level we all expected... Turk, is a big question mark for the remaining years on his fresh contract....

I just hope DD/Amir/Belinelli reach their incredibly really high potentials in the coming years... and if they do I hope there enough $$ to go around considering the players who we all know are getting there $

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jeffb

I have a feeling Jose won't be here next season. I just get the feeling BC is gonna want a more up tempo quicker PG. Plus his defence is atrocious. I like Calderon, but i don't think he'll get much better.

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Someguy again

Turkoglu was signed so we can have a clutch player with high basketball IQ on our wings, also he was the best option in the summer of '09 that could really help us with our distribution among our high scoring frontcourt duo (bargs and Bosh) plus a 6'10 SF? a very versatile option when we need backup PFs.

Bargnani was signed more money because its better to get him singed for cheap as he attempts to reach his ceiling which could probably be after this season. Imagine having a 25 and 6-8 player only being paid 10 mill a year? if we didn't resign him he would be in a contract year and we would have to sign him for even more money or just let him walk, BC took the safe way by signing him with average money and see how he does.

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gochi

Well, clearly none of them are meeting minimum expectations. The Bargs signing does make sense, financially, but turk was just a waste...on this team anyways. He would have done better in portland lol.

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the_ raps_analyst

The reason why Turk hasnt played the same way he did in Orlando is because he was surrounded by great players on that team and he was the focal point on offence. he had the ball in his posession often but on the raps, its Calderon who does most of the dribbling.

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Someguy again

The reason Turkoglu didn't go to the Blazers is because he disagreed with the coach's playing style and how their offense works, probably because he couldn't get as much touches? or he would be forced to play positions he can't? maybe not even take up the ball set up plays because Blake, Bayless and Roy dominate that part of the game? I don't know why he didn't go to Portland but he knew well that he wasn't going to succeed there and so went to us because we needed a clutch player with distribution skills equivalent to a point guard.

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gochi

I disagree. Hedo came to Toronto for every reason besides basketball. He seems like a slacker, but like vince, gets away with it b/c he can do things other 6'10 players cant.

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Someguy again

We agree to disagree

However his wife and the large Turkish community was not the only reason why he came here, it was all of those factors from the problems with the portland playing style, BC straight up telling him that we need an all-star calibre wing and because our offense is so dependant on pick and roll and Turkoglu is a master at that might be a huge factor.

He was cleary hitting some clutch shots especially near the end on the suns game when he made those 3s near the end and on other games he was heating up our offense, and once our chemistry kicks in he might become a huge asset for us, it's just that right now we aren't utilizing him properly.

But if the situation is still the same during december/january then I would start panicking, for now we'll wait.

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m5racer

+5.325

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