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Old 03-21-2012, 09:59 AM   #21 (permalink)
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Bayless plays to win.
Calderon plays to get you guys a better draft pick.

Sorry, that was mean. I'm still a little grumpy after watching Drew Gooden kick my team's ass.
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Old 03-21-2012, 01:42 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I'm not sold on all of this Bayless hype
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Old 03-21-2012, 02:15 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I'm not sold on all of this Bayless hype
Neither am I but the only way we can find out is to let him play. I think he certainly has the potential, and if he were to work on his distributing more he could be a good starting PG.

I don't care really whether he starts or comes off the bench, I would just like to see him get minutes to see what he can do.

It's not like we're fighting for a playoff spot.
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Old 03-21-2012, 02:28 PM   #24 (permalink)
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You don't put a guy with an assist to turn over ratio like jose's on the bench. That coupled with his shooting % and his ability to hit free throws, he sitting just out side the top ten point guards in the league. Bayless just doesn't have the mentality to quarterback a team, sure he is going to bring excitement in comparison, but you put him and James johnson on the floor with starters minutes you going to triple your turn overs. Bayless's play style is that of a bench PG, end to end energy.
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You don't put a guy with an assist to turn over ratio like jose's on the bench. That coupled with his shooting % and his ability to hit free throws, he sitting just out side the top ten point guards in the league. Bayless just doesn't have the mentality to quarterback a team, sure he is going to bring excitement in comparison, but you put him and James johnson on the floor with starters minutes you going to triple your turn overs. Bayless's play style is that of a bench PG, end to end energy.
Let's face it Both Jose & Bayless would be bench players on most teams in this league...
I say let them split the minutes right down the middle!
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Old 03-21-2012, 04:34 PM   #26 (permalink)
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You don't put a guy with an assist to turn over ratio like jose's on the bench. That coupled with his shooting % and his ability to hit free throws, he sitting just out side the top ten point guards in the league. Bayless just doesn't have the mentality to quarterback a team, sure he is going to bring excitement in comparison, but you put him and James johnson on the floor with starters minutes you going to triple your turn overs. Bayless's play style is that of a bench PG, end to end energy.
You act like the Raps have actually gotten somewhere with Calderon as the starting PG.

Newsflash: they haven't.
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Old 03-21-2012, 05:59 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Still Bayless should have started with Jose coming back from injury...
Bayless was riding a hot streak, Casey should have sticked with the hot hand & ease Jose into the game.

Just for comparison sake:

Jose 13-28 when he starts
Bayless 4-7 when he starts
is equivalent to approx 46 percent and 57 percent. considering Bargnani was playing in a larger percentage of the games bayless started, and derozan is doing much better, i'd say jose did a better job.

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Let's face it Both Jose & Bayless would be bench players on most teams in this league...
I say let them split the minutes right down the middle!
this is so wrong in so many ways, i literally face palmed. igorance is bliss isn't it?

calderon would start on the majority of teams, including some contenders, he only wouldn't start over the rondo, westbrook, nash's of the league. Calderon is an incredible pg and it's sad that other teams know this more than our own fans.
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You act like the Raps have actually gotten somewhere with Calderon as the starting PG.

Newsflash: they haven't.
news flash, we have. remember the 2006/2007 season where we won that little thing they call the atlantic division? that was in large part due to jose and his splendid play which many have compared to his play this year. The reason why the win totals aren't the same is because:

a) a much weaker supporting cast

b) a better coach (Casey's great and all, but he ain't no mitchell).
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Also, a much, much stronger division.
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news flash, we have. remember the 2006/2007 season where we won that little thing they call the atlantic division? that was in large part due to jose and his splendid play which many have compared to his play this year. The reason why the win totals aren't the same is because:

a) a much weaker supporting cast

b) a better coach (Casey's great and all, but he ain't no mitchell).
Really? THere's a reason Smitch hasn't gotten another head coaching gig
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Really? THere's a reason Smitch hasn't gotten another head coaching gig
it's very tough to land on in the NBA. There are only 30 available, and he joined a sinking ship NJ after us, as an assistant, where he couldn't do much to change the outcome, but had his resume tarnished quite a bit. If I remember correctly, when he got fired, we were just over 500 were we not? or maybe just under. never the less, considering BC's big signing in JO had just gotten injured, and we weren't winning at a great rate, and ford was bitching, should he have really been fired? I feel as if under Sam we would've made the playoffs some of the years that we didn't under Triano.
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Really? THere's a reason Smitch hasn't gotten another head coaching gig
Yup I don't get the smitch post at all...
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Old 03-21-2012, 07:02 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Jose would be starting for argueably 20 out of the 30 teams in the NBA...

He'd be starting for the lakers, the heat, the magic, philly, atlanta etc

All playoff bound GOOD teams...

He's having one of his best seasons this year
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Jose would be starting for argueably 20 out of the 30 teams in the NBA...

He'd be starting for the lakers, the heat, the magic, philly, atlanta etc

All playoff bound GOOD teams...

He's having one of his best seasons this year
Not necessarily.

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He wouldn't be starting over Jameer Nelson (who is a former all-star) or Jrue Holiday.
Yes he would...
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depends on whether you have the good jose from this year or the liability jose from the 2 previous seasons. whether or not it was just injury issues, he was not an nba-calibre starter last year.
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depends on whether you have the good jose from this year or the liability jose from the 2 previous seasons. whether or not it was just injury issues, he was not an nba-calibre starter last year.
Talking about "good jose", his play this year and the amazing season he is having thus far
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thus far, indeed.
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Old 03-22-2012, 02:22 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Yes he would...
There is no way he would start over those 2 point guards, there is no question about it...
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