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EggsToTheBBQ 02-13-2011 06:36 AM

Who should the Raptors draft?
 
We need something to look forward too. :sigh:

Here's a few of the most popular choices. Assume the Raptors have the top pick.

Giving a few reasons why that player would fit with this team would be helpful. Factor in upside, skill set, BBIQ, work ethic, athleticism, attitude, etc...

"BPA" is a thoughtless non-answer. Who do you think is the "BP" and why? Also, the BP isn't necessarily who you'd most like to see in a Raptors uniform.

EggsToTheBBQ 02-13-2011 06:46 AM

I'll start with Perry Jones.

Perry Jones has had a great season this year with Baylor. He has perimeter skills, but is also strong in the post and on the glass. With his skill set he should be playing SF in the NBA.

He would give the Raptors a SF that has the length and quickness to defend his position. He could be a great fit with the Raptors since he could slide over to PF/C depending on the match ups, and could provide a strong presence inside and on the glass alongside Amir/Davis + Bargs (if the Raptors still have faith in Bargs).

He's been an exceptionally efficient scorer this year, which speaks highly of his shot selection and ability to get to the line. He has a ton of upside. His FT%, range and handle should get better with hard work and maturity. The Raptors coaching staff has had success with Bosh and Amir (somewhat similar players) in these areas.

I know that Irving could be a star in the NBA, but for me, having a player like Perry Jones at SF translates to more wins and deeper playoff runs than having an Irving at PG.

MARTYNAS 02-13-2011 07:41 AM

I don't know a thing about college ball. I just wanna say, draft pick is long term thing, and team shouldn't look what their need that day. No matter what, you need to draft best player there is.

I know only Jonas Valanciunas. I know him very well. Big fan of him, but he is clearly not a first pick. He is still considering, enter the draft or quit it. I asked him about it 4 months ago, and the answer was 2012 draft. But now it looks he reconsidering it. A lot of GMs are interested in him, his coach do not trust him much, so... why not?
Thing is, it's hard to predict whats gonna happen in 6 months. I still believe he will quit.

EggsToTheBBQ 02-13-2011 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by MARTYNAS (Post 507671)
I don't know a thing about college ball. I just wanna say, draft pick is long term thing, and team shouldn't look what their need that day. No matter what, you need to draft best player there is.

Right, so how do you determine who the "best" player is?

If your coaching staff doesn't know how to bring a certain pick along, or he doesn't get touches, or he doesn't have a well defined role in your system, then it's entirely possible to turn a good pick into a bust.

I don't believe in "BPA" for a second. It's an oversimplified view of the matter.

In the end the pick needs to be made with a vision in mind. The coaching staff needs to look at a guy and say to themselves "he's going to be a great player, because we can see how he's going to develop, and we can see how to get him there".

Bankiz 02-13-2011 08:34 AM

i choose Terence jones.
he is a solid defender SF with scoring abilities.
for me him and perry jones can be our choice. because we lack a young asset at sf position and they are not so many in the league.

EggsToTheBBQ 02-13-2011 08:55 AM

Yeah, Terrence Jones is a good pick too - for many of the same reasons Perry Jones is a good pick.

'trane 02-13-2011 08:57 AM

for some extended discussion of these prospects and more, including several draft profiles, please remember to check out our RF draft forum:

The Official RF 2011 NBA Draft Forum

MrClutch 02-13-2011 09:50 AM

personally for me i would love to either get perry jones or kyrie irving depending on if were in the top 2. if were getting kyrie irving then colangelo must deal calderon immediately

justizzllee 02-13-2011 11:00 AM

I think terrance jones is tougher than perry jones and is also a better shooter.. also a lefty..hard to defend..and has better tangibles and they are the same age

js12 02-13-2011 12:17 PM

In order:

Kyrie Irving: dynamic player at the point, fits with the up-tempo pace
Jared Sullinger: adds rebounding and inside scoring
Perry Jones: solid player on both ends with potential

Don Vito 02-13-2011 12:36 PM

We need Perry Jones.. he addresses the position we need which is SF. Its no debate... Perry Jones is worlds better than Sonny Weems and Kleiza.

js12 02-13-2011 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Don Vito (Post 507696)
We need Perry Jones.. he addresses the position we need which is SF. Its no debate... Perry Jones is worlds better than Sonny Weems and Kleiza.

My biggest complaint about Jones is that he constantly needs the ball on offence. A lot of the times, he is just waiting for the ball and not making plays for himself.

fk24 02-13-2011 01:36 PM

Perry Jones looks like a tweener. and the fact that he hasn't dominated at any level of competition worries me.

fk24 02-13-2011 01:37 PM

If you get the oppurtunity, you take Kyrie Irving #1 cause he is the clear cut #1.

fk24 02-13-2011 01:41 PM

You draft for position and you get guys like Marvin Williams.

EggsToTheBBQ 02-13-2011 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by fk24 (Post 507726)
Perry Jones looks like a tweener. and the fact that he hasn't dominated at any level of competition worries me.

Perry Jones is having a fantastic year at Baylor.

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Originally Posted by fk24 (Post 507727)
If you get the oppurtunity, you take Kyrie Irving #1 cause he is the clear cut #1.

It depends how he comes back from injury. If he comes back and doesn't look close to 100% then he's nowhere near a lock at #1.

Also, PGs are rarely clear #1 picks. John Wall was an exception. There's a lot of teams that don't regard PGs as #1 picks.

finstock 02-13-2011 01:47 PM

Irving looks like the best pure PG prospect since Paul and Williams. While he's not as athletic as guys like Rose, Westbrook and Wall, I think he'll be better at managing a team. I buy the comparisons to CP3.

Perry Jones is a straight tease at this moment. Great talent, body, but questionable motor. Doesn't have that killer instinct.

Probably the most intriguing prospect is big man Jonas Valancuinas. Some of you may be thinking, "not another soft Euro". From all accounts, this guy is far from soft. He has a huge wingspan, good motor, shoots around 90% from the line, and best of all, plays around the rim.

1. Irving
2. Barnes
3. Valancuinas.

fk24 02-13-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by oneironaught (Post 507732)
Irving looks like the best pure PG prospect since Paul and Williams. While he's not as athletic as guys like Rose, Westbrook and Wall, I think he'll be better at managing a team. I buy the comparisons to CP3.

Perry Jones is a straight tease at this moment. Great talent, body, but questionable motor. Doesn't have that killer instinct.

Probably the most intriguing prospect is big man Jonas Valancuinas. Some of you may be thinking, "not another soft Euro". From all accounts, this guy is far from soft. He has a huge wingspan, good motor, shoots around 90% from the line, and best of all, plays around the rim.

1. Irving
2. Barnes
3. Valancuinas.

You gotta put Kanter somewhere in there as well.

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN 02-13-2011 02:23 PM

1. Kyrie Irving Duke - Upgrade at PG. Kyrie has all the tools and was off to a great start at Duke before his toe injury

2. Harrison Barnes UNC - You look at Barnes and he has a NBA body. Got off to a slow start at UNC but lately has shown why many people had him as the #1 prospect coming into college.

T3. Jared Sullinger Ohio State - Great BB IQ, Rebound, Post guy. He does it all right there. Sullinger has great feet, hands, and BB IQ which is perfect for building a Post Big man. He lacks Height but makes up with all of that. He put himself in great position to score and rebound.

T3. Perry Jones Baylor - A project right now but a very athletic player. Has showed some promise but still needs work.

MARTYNAS 02-13-2011 02:24 PM

I don't know whats so great about Kanter. Savas v.2.0.
He is better and more NBA ready than Valanciunas, but Valnciunas is better prospect. He can play very well in the paint being skinny as scythe. Very long arms and super wide wingspan. He will get stronger ant then, watch out Enes...

P.S. I picked Irving, not Valanciunas. Who is those 2 guys who picked him as a top pick? Hello, welcome to earth...


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