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Old 06-07-2008, 12:04 PM   #1 (permalink)
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They Can Trade up To Get #2 pick Of Heat Which Is Available
They Can Aslo Trade up To Get #4 Pick Of The Sonics Which Is Also Avaliable.

Both Teams Are Is Need Of A good Point Guard.

A Package Of Tj+17 could notch us the #4 Pick Of The Sonics

A Package Of Tj+17+Anthony Parker Could Notch Us #2+Contract To Maintain Cap Rule: Maybe Blount, Banks, Etc..... ?

Or We Could Trade Andrea To Golden State For Brendan Wright+14

Thsi is rumored but The Warriors What Yi (Milwaukee) and wanted to select him at #8 but were shcoked when ( Milwakuee Bucks) took him eventhough he refused not to do a pre-daft workout for him.

Let's See What Happens!
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Old 06-07-2008, 12:23 PM   #2 (permalink)
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A Package Of Tj+17 could notch us the #4 Pick Of The Sonics
Ugh .... I think Ford is worth more than a #4 pick especially when the cream of the crop are really only Rose and Beasley. It's a deep draft, but a crap shoot as to whom will go after those two. We've definitely can (and will do) better than dealing Ford for just a pick. I know Raptor fans have a tendency of overvaluing their players, but in this case your undervaluing T.J..
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I would hazard a guess and say we are thinking too much here...possibilities are endless but i really dont think u can count out a straight tj for <insert name> swap of somesort.

I dont want a draft pick. I want a big experienced backup 5 or something...not another project...its time that we win now.
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Ugh .... I think Ford is worth more than a #4 pick especially when the cream of the crop are really only Rose and Beasley. It's a deep draft, but a crap shoot as to whom will go after those two. We've definitely can (and will do) better than dealing Ford for just a pick. I know Raptor fans have a tendency of overvaluing their players, but in this case your undervaluing T.J..
I don't know, we only had to give the Bucks our 7th pick (Charlie V) and T.J is injury prone? It should be interesting, BC is very crafty and i hope he can Trade T.J and in return move up in the Draft and get another quality player that can help with our rebounding or secondary scoring.
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I don't know, we only had to give the Bucks our 7th pick (Charlie V) and T.J is injury prone? It should be interesting, BC is very crafty and i hope he can Trade T.J and in return move up in the Draft and get another quality player that can help with our rebounding or secondary scoring.
BC also said not to long ago that any transactions made were going to be for a forsure contributor immediately. Sorry, but a #4 pick isn't a shoe-in to contribute right away. We'd can't afford to have another player in our starting line-up that is still 2 to 4 years away because of development. We got burnt once with Bargnani, I don't think we have the patience to wait another couple years for someone to pan out.

But yes, if Ford is dealt for a quality player and the #4, then I'd be happy. The only person I see us being realistically interested in from Seattle would be Collison.

So, Collison and Seattle's #4 for Ford and Toronto's #17? Deal?
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BC also said not to long ago that any transactions made were going to be for a forsure contributor immediately. Sorry, but a #4 pick isn't a shoe-in to contribute right away. We'd can't afford to have another player in our starting line-up that is still 2 to 4 years away because of development. We got burnt once with Bargnani, I don't think we have the patience to wait another couple years for someone to pan out.

But yes, if Ford is dealt for a quality player and the #4, then I'd be happy. The only person I see us being realistically interested in from Seattle would be Collison.

So, Collison and Seattle's #4 for Ford and Toronto's #17? Deal?
I do believe that BC will get a player plus move up in the draft. We may have to add another player (Parker or Kapono) to get an even better deal. I also agree i don't want us to trade T.J straight up for a pick. I'd rather us hold onto the 17th pick and trade T.J for a proven vet with grit that can come in and contibute and maybe help lead the team alongside CB4.
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Old 06-07-2008, 02:26 PM   #7 (permalink)
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That's True but if we get someone like Oj Mayo, Eric Gordon Or Even A Kevin Love All areproven Score's at the college level and Bargnani was only 13 points in Euro and with inconsisten minutes he averaged 11 points i'm sure any of these players can average 14-17 points easy ? Do you think that's true or close to being reasonable? Even Gilinari is 21 points in europe and Bargnani was only 13 points ?
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We need to get older, not younger. One thing that I didn't like in the playoffs was that we were still extremely "green" and looked nervous. We need a veteran in there who can calm nerves but also step in and take control of this team, much like Oakley and Davis did for us in 1999-2000.
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That's True but any Vertran's Out There we get for TJ will be a bad value ? so i'm not sure who we can get >?
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we have to go for best trade value but again we need to get older and more mature. We had our times of youth, its time to win playoff series.

I for one would be a lil upset if we traded tj straight up for a draft pick and parts... i jut dont want another project anymore. i want to win playoff games and rookies dont do that unless ur like a lebron if that
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We don't want Mark Blount jacking up 3s like Nowitzki..
We want McDyess!
I dream of grabbing Ginobili or Antawn Jamison(SF?).
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Old 06-07-2008, 11:23 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Thats true You mean Carmelo in his first year he made his team win 44 games and took them to the playoffs and averaged 24 points while lebron was 20 and had 31 Wins so don't overate Lebron please.
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If you're sayign Lebron Went To Conference Finals It's Because of a Week Wizards team with Gilbert Out with Knee Injury And Caron Out With Broken Hand, Unmotivated Detroit who had internal locker room problems while in Conference Finals and Well you know the New jersey Nets that own 35 Games right saem team exact same team that won 35 games. Don't use devin harris for excuse cause he got them 15 wins with a record of 15-18 after trade deadline which is better than the 20-29 record they assembled with Kidd in lineup
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"Who Do The Raptors Draft At #17 Or Do They Do They They Trade Up!"

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Picking up a veteran presence is NOT enough...thats why they need to move up in the draft, or acquire youthful talent via trade. This team is not 1 player away, its got a nice young core, of calderon, bosh, bargnani...but we are missing KEY pieces, especially as far as secondary scoring is concerned. BC is not going to play for next year, he's going to play for a championship, you don't make additions to just win the first round people, we need a young impact player who will be here for the next 4 years easiest way to do that...move up in the draft
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Thats true You mean Carmelo in his first year he made his team win 44 games and took them to the playoffs and averaged 24 points while lebron was 20 and had 31 Wins so don't overate Lebron please.
I'm not sure how you can "over rate" the best player in the league.

Honestly.

Curb the idiocy dude.
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Sorry, the best player in the league doesn't let the guy he's guarding score 41 points against him in a Game 7? hehe

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denver has a good team, beyond carmelo. Cavs sans lebron are the worst team in the league. Can't really compare the two.
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I'm not sure how you can "over rate" the best player in the league.

Honestly.

Curb the idiocy dude.
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Sorry, the best player in the league doesn't let the guy he's guarding score 41 points against him in a Game 7? hehe
And last time I checked it was Kobe who won MVP, not LeBron SJ
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mvp means crap - you can't even begin to compare the cavs and the lakers (beyond their stars). Regardless, they're both the best player at their position, therefore they can't be overrated (unless you start hearing Kobe is 2x the player MJ and stuff like that).
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