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Old 04-27-2009, 12:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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All I can say is .... WOW.

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First of all...THANK YOU to Chicago and Boston. Their game today and their game's 1 and 2 of this series are as good as any I've seen ever in a first round.

Anyway with Detroit now out and looking to rebuild I had a thought.

What if the Raptors traded Chris Bosh and Jason Kapono to the Pistons for Rip Hamilton and Tayshaun Prince. I would think Toronto would also have to swap 1st round picks to make this happen but it would address both the starting SG and SF issues. Give Toronto now 2 go to scoring options instead of one with bosh. Also it adds length and rebounding at the SF position and gives Toronto a slasher in Rip.

I would certainly try to get this deal done without swapping picks with the Pistons which might work considering the length of Rip and Tay's contracts. Keeping the pick, likely to be around 9 could shore up the backup PG spot land the Raptors a PG like North Carolina's Ty Lawson.

The Raptors would also STILL retain the cap space they gained with Marion's contract coming off the books which they could use to lure somebody like Charlie Villanueva (16 pts 7 reb last season in 11 less min than bosh) , Lamar Odom or Mehmet Okur to Toronto to start in place of Bosh. They could then look to sign Anthony Parker to come off the bench at SG and also run the point as he did this season in a backup roll.

Not sure how much cap space they'd have but they could look at bringing Rasho or Delfino back or try to add a guy like Walter Hermann who is a free agent.

A starting 5 would look like this

PG - Jose Calderon
SG - Richard Hamilton
SF - Tayshaun Prince
PF - Charlie V/Lamar Odom/Mehmet Okur
C - Andrea Bargnani

Bench

Anthony parker or Carlos Delfino
Rasho Nesterovich
Kris Humphries
Roko Ukic
Marcus Banks
Nathan Jawai
Quincy Douby
Patrick Obryant
1st round pick

Obviously the biggest obstacle is signing somebody at a reasonable rate to replace bosh. Then using the rest of the money to bring in guys to round out the bench.


Just a thought and probably a real long shot.
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Old 04-27-2009, 12:56 PM   #2 (permalink)
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why don't people put some thought into these trade scenarios?
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Old 04-27-2009, 01:02 PM   #3 (permalink)
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that team is worse than what we have now
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Old 04-27-2009, 03:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Tay and Prince and he suggests that we swap picks. What the hell is this guy smoking. They should give us there pick and Afflalo to even have a chance
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I couldn't get past his proclamation of CHI-BOS being as good as any first round series. Man there has been some shitty play in that series. If that's the best he can recall, then it just makes me feel teerrribly sorry for him.
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This guy is prolly a fan boy of CHI and just started watching ball *scoffs*
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Old 04-28-2009, 06:53 AM   #7 (permalink)
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White Chocolate's trade scenario is a bit unrealistic. First and foremost Bosh is a Base Year Compensation player so for trade purposes the incoming contract would have to at max be worth half of Bosh's which is around 7.5 mil. Both those guys make more than that so financially it wouldn't work. Also from a talent standpoint Detroit is not going to trade away 2 all-star players who can both defend and score for 1 all-star who may bolt in a year and an overpaid 3pt specialist.

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I couldn't get past his proclamation of CHI-BOS being as good as any first round series. Man there has been some shitty play in that series. If that's the best he can recall, then it just makes me feel teerrribly sorry for him.

how is the BOS-CHI series not the best first round match-up? Games 1 and 4 (already aired on ESPN Classic) went into OT and game 2 ended in one of the best displays of clutch shooting from Ben Gordon and Ray Allen. You also have the rare opportunity of seeing a rookie in Derrick Rose elevate his game during the playoffs. Lets look at Rondo who also has elevated his game in the absence of KG averaging a triple double for the series. That's shitty play to you?

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This guy is prolly a fan boy of CHI and just started watching ball *scoffs*
When does watching a game and being entertained by it make you a fanboy? A good game is a good game and there's nothing outrageous about expressing your appreciation of it.

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White Chocolate's trade scenario is a bit unrealistic. First and foremost Bosh is a Base Year Compensation player so for trade purposes the incoming contract would have to at max be worth half of Bosh's which is around 7.5 mil. Both those guys make more than that so financially it wouldn't work. Also from a talent standpoint Detroit is not going to trade away 2 all-star players who can both defend and score for 1 all-star who may bolt in a year and an overpaid 3pt specialist.




how is the BOS-CHI series not the best first round match-up? Games 1 and 4 went into OT and game 2 ended in one of the best ever displays of clutch shooting from Ben Gordon and Ray Allen. You also have the rare opportunity of seeing a rookie in Derrick Rose elevate his game during the playoffs. Lets look at Rondo who also has elevated his game in the absence of KG averaging a triple double for the series. That's trashy play to you?



When does watching a game and being entertained by it make you a fanboy? A good game is a good game and there's nothing outrageous about expressing your appreciation of it.
Trading two stars for one all star you mean. There's a difference between a star and an all star.
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Trading two stars for one all star you mean. There's a difference between a star and an all star.
nitpicky aren't we? Hamilton is an all-star and though Prince has never been voted onto the all-star team no one denies the importance he played in Detroit's success the past few years as a top team in the East.
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Old 04-28-2009, 08:59 AM   #10 (permalink)
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I think the Pistons WOULD consider doing this.
If you look at their team composition....

Players off the books after this year:
Sheed, AI, Herrmann, McDyess

Players off the books after next year:
Kwame, Bynum, Amir Johnson, Walter Sharpe

The only guys they have signed longer-term are:
Prince, Rip, Maxiell, Afflalo, & Stuckey

3 of those guys are young players who they can re-build with. Prince & Rip are not OLD, but they are not young enough to wait a few years.
This is Detroit's chance to trade for someone LIKE Bosh & sign another good player with AI's money.

I wouldn't be surprised to see them take Chandler off of new orlean's hands because they can take his whole salary.....and still sign a good free agent.

C: Chandler
PF: Bosh
SF: Marvin Williams?
SG: ?
PG: Stuckey
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