Where does Bargnani rank in terms of consistency among the league's top 20 scorers?

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Old 01-14-2011, 12:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Where does Bargnani rank in terms of consistency among the league's top 20 scorers?

Bargs is currently 15 in the league in PPG and and according to this article, the 17th most consistent scorer among the top 20. Durant is is first overall both in scoring and consistecy.

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Old 01-14-2011, 12:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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not bad for 10M per.... good job Acie!
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Old 01-14-2011, 06:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Top 20, not bad.
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AB has been suprisingly consistent this season. He hasnt had too many games where he is under 15 points. And his percentages are pretty good, considering he is not a big that only shoot from close to basket.

If he could somehow learn the basics of help defense, he would be great.
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And if someone could look up the stats for the top-20 and their EFC% or whatever stat that looks at the shooting percentage, and takes into account the amount of threes it would be great to see where he stands.
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AB has been suprisingly consistent this season. He hasnt had too many games where he is under 15 points. And his percentages are pretty good, considering he is not a big that only shoot from close to basket.

If he could somehow learn the basics of help defense, he would be great.
he knows the basics of help D..... he's just got to be quicker to react at times... which should be helped as we continue to grow on the perimeter defensively too.
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AB has been suprisingly consistent this season. He hasnt had too many games where he is under 15 points. And his percentages are pretty good, considering he is not a big that only shoot from close to basket.

If he could somehow learn the basics of help defense, he would be great.
I think game by game, AB is getting better on the help D...I has been a really slow process though too slow for many of us

Sometimes his help defense is good but he has to increase that good d to most of the time.

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I think game by game, AB is getting better on the help D...I has been a really slow process though too slow for many of us
in his defence, he's been around alot, alot, of bad defenders.....
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Bargnani's numbers are inflated, and pretty inconsistent all the same. His D is generally horrid. I could accept him on a team that was otherwise built on a premise of strong defense, so to that extent I agree with carp.
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Bargnani's numbers are inflated, and pretty inconsistent all the same. His D is generally horrid. I could accept him on a team that was otherwise built on a premise of strong defense, so to that extent I agree with carp.
why the hate? true his numbers are SOMEWHAT inflated, maybe 2 ppg but no more and where did the inconsistancy comment come from?
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F*ck scoring. It's the most overrated garbage stat in the world. Give me the best defensive centres over the best offensive centres any day of the week.
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why the hate? true his numbers are SOMEWHAT inflated, maybe 2 ppg but no more and where did the inconsistancy comment come from?
Out of the top 20 scorers, he is one of the most inconsistent, with only Kevin Love, Beasley and Ellis proving to be worse. That's what these numbers show.

His numbers are entirely inflated. I think I just read something about Bosh's numbers being inflated previously. I don't remember Bosh chucking as much as this guy. Most players just don't get the free reign to do so, and if there was any better shooters on this team, he would be reigned in and forced to work a little more for his points. I would hope anyways.
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Out of the top 20 scorers, he is one of the most inconsistent, with only Kevin Love, Beasley and Ellis proving to be worse. That's what these numbers show.

His numbers are entirely inflated. I think I just read something about Bosh's numbers being inflated previously. I don't remember Bosh chucking as much as this guy. Most players just don't get the free reign to do so, and if there was any better shooters on this team, he would be reigned in and forced to work a little more for his points. I would hope anyways.
Come on ... lets give some love when deserved. If before the season started, there was a guarantee he would be a top 20 scorer, almost everyone would of be pleased. His defense has improved, but no where close to what we need .. or what his abilities should provide.
He's a natural scorer .. let's give him credit there.
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Come on ... lets give some love when deserved. If before the season started, there was a guarantee he would be a top 20 scorer, almost everyone would of be pleased. His defense has improved, but no where close to what we need .. or what his abilities should provide.
He's a natural scorer .. let's give him credit there.
I didn't make these numbers up to hate on him. You want to hold a parade because there are only three players that are less consistent than him among the top 20?

Personally I would love to see his natural scoring abilities within a reputable offensive system. That would mean seeing him prove to be able to help get some shots for other players, as well as likely seeing more consistency and less chucking from him. It would also mean fewer points, unless he hit the threes more regularly, worked more under the basket, or drew more fouls, all of which would be wonderful to see.
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I didn't make these numbers up to hate on him. You want to hold a parade because there are only three players that are less consistent than him among the top 20?

Personally I would love to see his natural scoring abilities within a reputable offensive system. That would mean seeing him prove to be able to help get some shots for other players, as well as likely seeing more consistency and less chucking from him. It would also mean fewer points, unless he hit the threes more regularly, worked more under the basket, or drew more fouls, all of which would be wonderful to see.
Looks like some one is actually a hater. Lx, seriously man, your ripping this guy because he is 17th in the top 20, so how about this. To make you feel better, he is 17th out of the top 50 scorers in the league. Does that make you feel better now. Oh and the fact that he is more consistent then a guy like ellis says a lot considering ellis is like 3ed in scoring

2 years ago if we were told, dont worry, andera is going to be one of the top 20 ppg playersin the league, we would have all been celebrating and throwing parades
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Looks like some one is actually a hater. Lx, seriously man, your ripping this guy because he is 17th in the top 20, so how about this. To make you feel better, he is 17th out of the top 50 scorers in the league. Does that make you feel better now. Oh and the fact that he is more consistent then a guy like ellis says a lot considering ellis is like 3ed in scoring

2 years ago if we were told, dont worry, andera is going to be one of the top 20 ppg playersin the league, we would have all been celebrating and throwing parades
Um dude - where did I rip him for being 17 out of 20? I just said that it points to the fact that he is inconsistent. You want to say that black is white and blue is green? Be my guest. But don't call me a hater for pointing out the obvious here.

As to him being the 17th most consistent out of 50 - I'd like to see a link. It would seem you just made that one up. But I'm a hater. OK fine.

And what exactly does being more consistent than Ellis say? You say it says a lot. what exactly? I would say it says that he is more consistent than Ellis. Is there anymore than that? Is that a lot?

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Pretty good considering his salary.
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The consistency stat in it self is not that great of a meter. You got guys that play on a team that often blow out opponents and rest the stars for last Q. That has an effect on "consistency". And if you got a team with many good scorers, a top scorer can play really well and still finish way below his average score total just by playing within the flow and letting others score.

The thing I find more impressing is that AB is really scoring pretty well this season and its not only because he is chucking up huge amount of shots. His fg-% is 11th among the 22 players that score above 20 points per game. If you only take into account 2 pointers he is 10th. So he is not the top of the class like Dwight Howard or Boozer, but he is mid-class in the class of best scorers which is not bad.
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agreed Rudy. What is going to be important is how he is integrated into a cohesive whole. I just don't think Andrea cranking up 25 shots is a winning formula.
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As to him being the 17th most consistent out of 50 - I'd like to see a link. It would seem you just made that one up. But I'm a hater. OK fine.

seriously man.....
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