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Old 04-22-2014, 01:21 AM   #561 (permalink)
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An inexperienced Raptors team is not going to win on the road in the playoffs against one of the best home teams in the nba
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I think the Raptors will win game 2 (although I do still think the Nets take the series). It's pretty unrealistic to expect a young team with an enthusiastic home crowd lose BOTH of their home games to start a series. I think the Raptors' young guys (i.e. all of the important players) were a bit shook in that fourth quarter. Nets have a lot of vets and their game doesn't really change a whole lot from quarter to quarter. They've built up that consistency. Game 2 I expect the Raptors to come out stronger than game 1 and build up a lead, but they need to figure out rotations and matchups to keep it. Because the Nets have vets that will keep coming at them and be fairly consistent. It's really up to the Raptors to figure out which young guys are producing and feed the hot hand.
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The warriors are getting manhandled by the clippers, i hope we don't pull this crap tomorrow, i don't care if we already got one there, try to take both away.
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We know (the Raptors) are going to come out a lot harder than Game 1. The crowd is going to be a lot louder than in Game 1, Pierce said. Our sense of urgency and our will is going to be a lot harder than in Game 1 if we expect to get two wins against an opponent on the road. Since Ive been in the playoffs Ive only done it one time, so its a hard thing to do. Youve got to understand how hard it is to win in another building two times in a row in the playoffs. Weve got to come with that mentality and nothing less.
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Looks like the Raptors fans' loser, ref conspiracy mindset has gotten to the Raptors players and even their head coach. Embarrassing.
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They attempted 25 free throw attempts. We attempted 27.

The Nets had 19 personal fouls, Raptors had 23 and three were intentionally. Which ultimately evens out to 19/20 disparity throughout the game.

I keep hearing about the 0 fouls in the 4th quarter but Deron got called for an offensive foul driving at Lowry, so if the game was so rigged they could have EASILY called it a block on Lowry and given Deron the And 1 since Lowry was moving but they didn't. I understand they don't know how playoff basketball works but come on. We've seen worse injustices across the league this week.

I've never seen an organization, city and and fanbase look so insecure and weak minded than the Raptors. It doesn't seem to bother them they look like complete idiots either which is mind boggling to me. Any other team would just shut up and play basketball.
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Old 04-22-2014, 02:32 AM   #562 (permalink)
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Regarding the last comment. There is some validity to it. Yeah the team has gotten s**t calls in the past but it's not necessary to always bring it up, even though they literally cost the game cough Charlotte cough. I do think some fans have been way too eager like saying the raps will win in 5.
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Old 04-23-2014, 01:18 AM   #563 (permalink)
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Old 04-23-2014, 11:22 AM   #564 (permalink)
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i remember when BK was on that crazy streak, and we beat em twice, and oncein BK

gonna have to refresh what barclays is like in postseason cuz it's dead in reg season, lol tsn "hipster fans"
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Old 04-23-2014, 11:40 AM   #565 (permalink)
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Dude apparently coaches these games in between shots of whiskey.
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**** Kidd and his **** rotations
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When the best coaches mess up, they usually say something about it in the PG. Even Pop says when he screws up.

Kidd?

"DeMar was hot...they made their shots...the team that has more poise is the team that's going to win"

Those statements suggest that Kidd doesn't think he did anything wrong, which is alarming. He can't keep doing this or else I can easily see us losing a game at home.
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didn't know Deron and Joe were on minutes restrictions? If you want to rest KG and Pierce, fine. But why didn't Deron and Joe come back in much earlier in that 4th quarter? They came in at the same time as KG and Pierce. It was stupid. They could have played at least 5 more minutes each.
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GG, as expected the refs were pulling for us late in game (I think nets were given 3 or 10 calls) but couldnt close it out
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Are you seriously proud of one sided officiating after whining to the media?
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Are we talking about same game? Im talking about this game where KG was given two free throws on an over the back that was no where close to being so and a missed And1 on Lowry and given And1 to Pierce. Nets fans cannot complain.
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I've never seen a fan base so obsessed with officiating. It's pathetic. I'd respect the Raptors fan base if it wasn't for the incessent whining about the officiating,
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If I was the NBA I'd want to fix the Brooklyn/Toronto series. Not because it makes sense to favour one team at the risk of sullying the reputation of a billion dollar product, but because some Raptors fans are annoying delusional turds.
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He (Kidd) flat out is stubborn and clueless with his rotations and minutes distribution. We only have two players worth resting, the rest of the roster is 25-32. There is one excuse to be running these stupid "vet" rotations in the playoffs after two days off.
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man Pierce is way too into his own shot down the stretch IMO.. (and yes I love when he makes them)
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Really, Landry Fields helped out a lot in the end. He was able to cover JJ long enough to provide help without missing assignments, and got a nice overplay steal for the key bucket of the game.
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I told you guys, Kidd is going to lose us this series by playing Garnett 20 minutes per game. It's RIDICULOUS at this point, it really is. What the hell is he saving him for? It's the playoffs, you win or go home. If he decides to come back next year, he'll have the whole summer to rest. Hell, you can give him a month off next years season, but don't put him on a ******* minutes restriction during the playoffs!!

He can EASILY go for 30 minutes per game, Kidd is OVERTHINKING his every decision.
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If we rebounded and hit FT's we woulda won that game.

Terrible effort from the FT line -_-
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Playing Deron, JJ, Livingston, Pierce 37-40 minutes and KG 27 minutes is all that needs to be done but Kidd won't do it. He's resting our guys for the off-season.
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I think it comes down to how much time we're willing to play KG. He was great in game 2. 5/6 from the field, 13/4 in 19 minutes. LOL, 19 minutes, can't believe that's all he played.
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Do you guys think he is playing KG ridiculously low mins for this series so that if we get to the 2nd round, he is going to go all out on KG playing him 35 min per game against Miami?

Looks like theres a lot of Nets fans that feel they can do a better job at coaching over Kidd.....delusions.....no............YEsssssssssss ss

Also, a lot of nets fans seem to be disgusted with the fact that Kidd has 'Limited" KG's minutes, but the reality is, I just dont think he can handle JV at this point in his career. Maybe Nets fans think they just signed KG in his prime, but biggest asset he holds at this point is his big mouth .....unfortunately for him, all the pussys that once inhabited this team (Bosh, Bargs calderon, not that he was a pussy, but KG loved shitting on him ) are now gone, and our guys dont fold any more when some old guy with no legs left runs his mouth like there up 3-0 in the finals.
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My theory on Kidd is that he is saving his vets for Miami. He acts like a guy that doesn't think we have any chance imo.
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My theory on Kidd is that he is saving his vets for Miami. He acts like a guy that doesn't think we have any chance imo.
Pretty agreeable. If you're Kidd though, what have we really done to scare them? both games could have been won or lost by a couple plays going differently.
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Pretty agreeable. If you're Kidd though, what have we really done to scare them? both games could have been won or lost by a couple plays going differently.
If we're not turning the ball over we're up 2-0. We've killed them on the boards and they have done nothing to separate themselves imo. So i have no clue what he's looking at. Both games were very close, and there isn't a big adantage on either side. I also think we'll play better as the series goes on and we hopefully settle down. I think he believes this is an easy series for them. We have yet to have a solid game from the whole starting unit in one game.
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My theory on Kidd is that he is saving his vets for Miami. He acts like a guy that doesn't think we have any chance imo.
If thats the case then why not just play them all heavy minutes, sweep us in 4 games, then rest those guys for the 10 days in-between series....

It would be so sweet if we could just beat the nets and give Kidd a little life lesson in being overly cocky and the trails and tribulations of being a first year head coach.
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If thats the case then why not just play them all heavy minutes, sweep us in 4 games, then rest those guys for the 10 days in-between series....

It would be so sweet if we could just beat the nets and give Kidd a little life lesson in being overly cocky and the trails and tribulations of being a first year head coach.
Why play the hell out of them and risk injuries to those fosils when you think you can win this handily and still get 3-4 days rest before Miami.
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I think the starters are playing about as well as they're going to. The series is going to be tight the whole way. I HOPE Ross can get into some sort of flow next game, he seems so not ready for the level of playoffs. maybe the quieter arena will help?
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I'm seriously frustrated with Kidd's poor rhyming skills:

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I think the starters are playing about as well as they're going to. The series is going to be tight the whole way. I HOPE Ross can get into some sort of flow next game, he seems so not ready for the level of playoffs. maybe the quieter arena will help?
Its funny because leading up to game 1, TR seemed more relaxed and nonchalant about the fact that they were about to enter a playoff series then everyone else on the team.....coincidence?
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My theory on Kidd is that he is saving his vets for Miami. He acts like a guy that doesn't think we have any chance imo.
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also playing AK heavy minutes, after not giving him any the previous game, blatche went the other way in the 2nd game. And Livingston didn't play almost any minutes late in the game, despite being far more efficiency than AK.

it may end up biting him, they are clearly the better team, but they are not THAT good.
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If we're not turning the ball over we're up 2-0. We've killed them on the boards and they have done nothing to separate themselves imo. So i have no clue what he's looking at. Both games were very close, and there isn't a big adantage on either side. I also think we'll play better as the series goes on and we hopefully settle down. I think he believes this is an easy series for them. We have yet to have a solid game from the whole starting unit in one game.
yeah, well, if they're not shooting 20% from 3 or giving up 20 rebounds, they're up 2-0. Of these 3 trends, them shooting 20% is the least sustainable - part of it is our D, but they missed a ton of wide open shots.

We will continue to have high TOs and they will continue to be outrebounded - that's a direct product of the type of lineups they play. Of course, they could play KG 35 minutes and severely reduce the rebounding deficit, but I don't think KG can take 35 minutes at this point, he missed most of the last 2-3 months of the season.
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they are clearly the better team
Mehhh! Brooklyn and Toronto are pretty close in talent imo.
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The way we are pounding the boards, if we get our turnovers under control I have a really good feeling about the rest of the series.
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yeah, well, if they're not shooting 20% from 3 or giving up 20 rebounds, they're up 2-0. Of these 3 trends, them shooting 20% is the least sustainable - part of it is our D, but they missed a ton of wide open shots.

We will continue to have high TOs and they will continue to be outrebounded - that's a direct product of the type of lineups they play. Of course, they could play KG 35 minutes and severely reduce the rebounding deficit, but I don't think KG can take 35 minutes at this point, he missed most of the last 2-3 months of the season.
We shot better than them from 3 during the season, and have shot almost as badly as them from 3 in the series so far (and significantly worse in game 2). One would think our poor perimeter shooting is just as unsustainable as their's. And I believe the rebounding differential is more sustainable than the TOV's. In-season we only averaged 14 TOV's against the Nets, with the worst game being 18 turnovers. I doubt the TOV's keep up. I expect 16 or less per game from here on in.

And running Garnett ragged would be great for the Raps. His effectiveness would probably plummet with too many minutes.
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We shot better than them from 3 during the season, and have shot almost as badly as them from 3 in the series so far (and significantly worse in game 2). One would think our poor perimeter shooting is just as unsustainable as their's. And I believe the rebounding differential is more sustainable than the TOV's.

Very true. We clean up our TO's, keep outrebounding them which seems likely considering they are the second worst rebounding team in the NBA and this series is very winnable. If we start shooting better from 3 it should put us over the top no matter how they shoot tbh.
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if i were kidd, i would start plumlee against jv and let kg wreak havoc against pp and amir.
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