What role do WE play in the Raptors success?: Contest Entry
Old 12-24-2010, 11:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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If we as fans want to see the Raptors improve and become a title contender, is there anything we can do about it? Obviously by purchasing tickets and merchandise we help ensure the team will be around long enough for this to happen but outside of that what impact do we have? We've seen some games in recent years where the fans have been less than pleased with the effort on the court and have let the players hear the boos rain down. Different players have called us out on that as well saying they need our support to feed off or they won't be able too go far. At what point do we boo the players out of a feeling of entitlement for the money we spent to be in the arena vs swallow our pride and be the cheerleaders the team asks for. Should we worry about upsetting our players by booing, and does it make a difference in the quest for a championship or are our actions more for our own benefit than to influence the team?
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Old 12-24-2010, 11:46 AM   #2 (permalink)
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We shouldn't worry how the players feel if we boo them. Toronto fans only boo for good reasons, such as not showing heart and hustle, if the players can provide that they wouldn't get boo'd in the first place.
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Old 12-24-2010, 12:42 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I think that we should try to make the best atmosphere possible. I would love to see an distinct atmosphere being created at the ACC that everyone in the league recognizes. I would love to integrate some very simple but specific chants like in soccer games in europe. I've been to several soccer games in eastern europe and the chants are more interesting then the game going on. People come just as much for the atmosphere and history of the clubs even more than they do for the product on the field.

Fighting some celtics and knicks fans would also be a nice rep increase. We just need to create an intense atmosphere which would add to the history and distinctiveness of our club.
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we have zero effect.

period.

its a fairly common ruse that fans think they do.

teams that win create happy and good fans.

what a stupid fucking idea.
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we have zero effect.

period.

its a fairly common ruse that fans think they do.

teams that win create happy and good fans.

what a stupid fucking idea.
Superjudge,

I think you underestimate the effect the the crowd has on a team in a game time situation. If we create a unique atmosphere, that is something that the players cannot help but appreciate and live up to. There are only 41 home games, but if we can push our team to win the close ones, that is much more than enough.
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I think that we should try to make the best atmosphere possible. I would love to see an distinct atmosphere being created at the ACC that everyone in the league recognizes. I would love to integrate some very simple but specific chants like in soccer games in europe. I've been to several soccer games in eastern europe and the chants are more interesting then the game going on. People come just as much for the atmosphere and history of the clubs even more than they do for the product on the field.

Fighting some celtics and knicks fans would also be a nice rep increase. We just need to create an intense atmosphere which would add to the history and distinctiveness of our club.
thats not going to bring FA's though
Miami has bad fans but they have the 3 amigos
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we have zero effect.

period.

its a fairly common ruse that fans think they do.

teams that win create happy and good fans.

what a stupid fucking idea.
Which is why almost every team in the league consistantly has a much better home record than road record every single year.

Players play with more energy at home when being cheered, especially role players, which is why their production is so much better at home vs the road. The best players have the menetal toughness to play their best in any situation a lot or most of the time whereas the lesser players cant. It's one of those psychological things I think, involving the left or right side of your brain or something along those lines.
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Old 12-25-2010, 03:24 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Boo
Boo to your heart's delight.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
These players get paid a lotta bread to perform, and are supposed to put on an entertaining brand of basketball for the fans. If the show ain't workin', then you have every right as a paying customer to boo.
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Old 12-25-2010, 06:03 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Boo
Boo to your heart's delight.
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
These players get paid a lotta bread to perform, and are supposed to put on an entertaining brand of basketball for the fans. If the show ain't workin', then you have every right as a paying customer to boo.
Next time i'm at a restaurant and my food is running late, I'll simply walk back to the kitchen and boo them until it's done. 'Cause that's the way to really motivate people. Lol.
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Next time i'm at a restaurant and my food is running late, I'll simply walk back to the kitchen and boo them until it's done. 'Cause that's the way to really motivate people. Lol.
Folks workin' in a kitchen don't make the salaries that an NBA player does, unless you eat at the most stupidestly expensive restaurant in the world. What do they serve there...people?
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The crowd in Utah never fails to amaze me with how they increase the positive noise energy while the other team is making a run. But of course being in Utah might do that to you. There's no denying the effect it has though. There is a mental aspect to the game, and the fans play a part of that.
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Folks workin' in a kitchen don't make the salaries that an NBA player does, unless you eat at the most stupidestly expensive restaurant in the world. What do they serve there...people?
Actually they serve the hopes and dreams of children.

My point is, when your team is struggling at home cheering for them will do a lot more than booing. Players may get paid ridiculous amounts of money but they are not all elite, all star, caliber players. Especially our team, which is filled with role players.
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Superjudge,

I think you underestimate the effect the the crowd has on a team in a game time situation. If we create a unique atmosphere, that is something that the players cannot help but appreciate and live up to. There are only 41 home games, but if we can push our team to win the close ones, that is much more than enough.
Tell that to the Leafs LOL
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Old 12-26-2010, 01:20 AM   #17 (permalink)
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the role we play is like...we be the bad boy and the Raptors role be like the scantily dressed police being "you've been a naughty boy" *whiplash* cept they only tease us and leave us unsatisfied.
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Old 12-26-2010, 10:10 AM   #18 (permalink)
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We don't build teams, we don't coach them and we don't play. Considering how the final product is there "for the fans", we are prototypical children who don't even get to write their own wish lists and who get way too many sacks of coal to maintain their beliefs.

So, yeah, boo and cheer, boo and cheer...
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One role is to stop booing the young guys out there getting playing time. Don't turn them into gun-shy, tenative basket cases. They are going to play teams that are flat out better than they are. that does not mean they are not trying.
Go find some 8 year old girls trying out for a school play and boo them if it makes you feel better.
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Which is why almost every team in the league consistantly has a much better home record than road record every single year.

Players play with more energy at home when being cheered, especially role players, which is why their production is so much better at home vs the road. The best players have the menetal toughness to play their best in any situation a lot or most of the time whereas the lesser players cant. It's one of those psychological things I think, involving the left or right side of your brain or something along those lines.
I think the home court itself holds as much if not more of an advantage than the home team fans.

a player in the game, in the zone so to speak, should not be influenced by the noise of the croud. head should be in the game not in the 65th row.

On the other hand, playing in a building in which you are acclimated to the temperature, the lighting, the floor, the rims, the bench, etc is more of a familiar feeling and more influential in calming nerves/feeling at home etc.

And that isnt taking into consideration players sleepingin their own places and not motels, and just generally being HOME. I know whenever I go away I long for my own bed and my own pillow.
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