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View Poll Results: What do you consider to be no mans land?
Making the playoffs as seed 6 7 or 8 3 8.57%
Missing the playoffs but getting worse than a top 10 pick 22 62.86%
Missing the playoffs but getting worse than a top 5 pick 3 8.57%
Other (State In Thread) 7 20.00%
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Old 01-22-2014, 01:08 AM   #21 (permalink)
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If Melo ever comes here I will stop watching the Raps.

How about we do a 3-team deal... you can have him... we take LMA?
Sure!! We'll throw in Batum. Just send us Novak and Fields, and we'll call it even.
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Old 01-22-2014, 01:09 AM   #22 (permalink)
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No man's land for Toronto, would be not getting involved in the trade frenzy for Carmelo Anthony. Maybe a LeBron James. You guys need a clear #1. Right now you have a couple 2's, a bunch of 3's, and too many 4's.
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I think there are 2 kinds of no-man's land....


Milwaukee Bucks on the low ground. Don't make the playoffs often, if they do, 1st round fodder, never bad enough for great picks and attract no stars.


Atlanta Hawks on the high ground. Playoffs but never illusions of championships. (This could be where we're headed)
They will probably break this tendency this year, their tanking have been pretty impressive. Add Randle(I don't think they'll take Embiid cause they have Sanders) near the Giannis Antetokoumnpo(in my eyes this guy have a cosmic potential), add a few vets and its a playoff team straight away.
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Old 01-22-2014, 03:04 AM   #24 (permalink)
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We are not in no mand land. If only because of financial flexibility.
Couple moves could change this team drastically. Compare to Detroit or Brooklyn.

Recent slump imo is on Casey. And somewhy Amir is not playing 100% (thats why there is a strong need for Tyler to return)
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We are not in no mand land. If only because of financial flexibility.
Couple moves could change this team drastically. Compare to Detroit or Brooklyn.

Recent slump imo is on Casey. And somewhy Amir is not playing 100% (thats why there is a strong need for Tyler to return)
Detroit has 3 good to great young players and max cap space this summer if they choose to let Monroe go. If not, they'll have max space next summer.
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Old 01-22-2014, 09:55 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Pretty much us right now.
Hopeless up and down results, sitting in 3/4 spot with no chance of picking high in the draft.
please i will take 3/4 spot in the conference any day of the week. No mans land to me is anywhere from 7 - 12 if we're talking conference rankings.

We're not close to being a legit 3 or 4 seed this year. That's the goal, but as we've seen of late, we have a ways to go to reach that.

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I think there are 2 kinds of no-man's land....


Milwaukee Bucks on the low ground. Don't make the playoffs often, if they do, 1st round fodder, never bad enough for great picks and attract no stars.


Atlanta Hawks on the high ground. Playoffs but never illusions of championships. (This could be where we're headed)
I'll take the atlanta hawks type ball any day of the week (back when they had Joe Johnson). You have a team that consistently won and was a threat to do well. Yes they were underdogs for any big success like titles, but they could totally go on deep playoff runs. That's not no mans land. That's a good team

Millwuakee bucks is what i consider no mans land. teams like that. Exactly what toronto has been the last handful of years. It's the shittiest spot to be in. Jury's out if we're on the way of ending up there. we could well be.
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Old 01-22-2014, 11:09 AM   #29 (permalink)
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IMO no mans land is not a draft spot. it's about the big picture. Settling to be making money with your franchise and being competitive on most nights.

Raps Goal: It's about inspired growth in all areas of the business. Drafting well from whatever your draft spot is. Internal roster growth. Being a FA destination is big. with the salary cap bringing the playing field closer together. The NBA is becoming more about where you play: the amenities, the coach and staff, the fans, the city, trusting ownership, quality teammates, etc.

no man's land to me is being stuck with no avenue to get better.

examples:
bad contracts make it tough to trade for value
trading draft picks like the knicks
ownership puts a limit on spending
free agents don't trust the org

Ownerships goal is to contend, and I believe they have the hierarchy to do it in the near future. (less a high end head coach... but I still believe management sees this)
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Old 01-22-2014, 11:32 AM   #30 (permalink)
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no man's land to me is being stuck with no avenue to get better.
that about sums it up.
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