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ERaz 01-06-2011 01:39 PM

What is a dynamic PG?
 
I see this sometimes and wonder what do people mean when they talk about "this team needs a dynamic PG? As a follow up, why isn't Jose considered a dynamic PG? I am not a huge basketball/Raptors fan. Basketball is only 3rd on my sports depth chart. So if I may seem like a bit of a newbi with this question, now you know why.

CommunistCrunch 01-06-2011 01:45 PM

Off the top of my head, a dynamic pg has the following combination of skills:

1) can penetrate defenses and get into the paint
2) can create for his teammates using crafty and timely passes
3) run plays and adjust a team's offensive and defensive formations to counter that of the opponent

That's about it. Easier said than done

jeffb 01-06-2011 01:56 PM

I would say it means different things to differnt people. To me it means a PG with quicks that can penetrate, isn't too deliberate, has court vision and pushes the envelop a little, and isn't afraid to get his own offense going in the right situations, and being able to keep his man in front of him on D as well. Now not many PG have all that, but I prefer a more aggressive PG vs a passive one which is essentially what it comes down to with me.

finstock 01-06-2011 02:06 PM

Jose can't create for himself like elite PGs. To cause problems in the paint, he usually needs a screen. Dynamic PGs are not only great off the pick and roll, but also have to ability to create for others by creating for themselves through penetration.

TORaptor4Ever 01-06-2011 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 489188)
I would say it means different things to differnt people. To me it means a PG with quicks that can penetrate, isn't too deliberate, has court vision and pushes the envelop a little, and isn't afraid to get his own offense going in the right situations, and being able to keep his man in front of him on D as well. Now not many PG have all that, but I prefer a more aggressive PG vs a passive one which is essentially what it comes down to with me.

Can you name me more than 10 PGs in the league who can do all of this on a regular basis? Shit, there may not be more than 5....

You're looking for an elite PG jeff.... and there's no way in the hell that we're getting one short of getting insanely lucky in the draft.

jeffb 01-06-2011 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by TORaptor4Ever (Post 489201)
Can you name me more than 10 PGs in the league who can do all of this on a regular basis? Shit, there may not be more than 5....

You're looking for an elite PG jeff.... and there's no way in the hell that we're getting one short of getting insanely lucky in the draft.

Which is why I said not many can do all of that, and I basically said it came down to being aggressive over being passive more then antything.

Snooch 01-06-2011 02:50 PM

sooooooooo


then Bayless.

Someguy again 01-06-2011 02:56 PM

chauncey billups

carp 01-06-2011 03:31 PM

dynamic point guard... three criteria: non-white, other ethnicity and no degree.

carp 01-06-2011 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 489188)
I would say it means different things to differnt people. To me it means a PG with quicks that can penetrate, isn't too deliberate, has court vision and pushes the envelop a little, and isn't afraid to get his own offense going in the right situations, and being able to keep his man in front of him on D as well. Now not many PG have all that, but I prefer a more aggressive PG vs a passive one which is essentially what it comes down to with me.

If I asked you to describe Jack, I hope I wouldn't get this.... lol

Bankiz 01-06-2011 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by CommunistCrunch (Post 489183)
Off the top of my head, a dynamic pg has the following combination of skills:

1) can penetrate defenses and get into the paint
2) can create for his teammates using crafty and timely passes
3) run plays and adjust a team's offensive and defensive formations to counter that of the opponent

That's about it. Easier said than done

4. Know what defend meens and do it. actually BBIQ.

yes that's about it.
i can quote 2 now can fit this : TiPi and kidd, maybe rose, wastbrook or felton. And i can see bayless can become one of those.

ERaz 01-06-2011 04:21 PM

Thanks! It is more clear to me now.

carp 01-06-2011 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ERaz (Post 489253)
Thanks! It is more clear to me now.

you're very welcome. Glad I could singlehandedly help.

Superjudge 01-06-2011 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ERaz (Post 489181)
I see this sometimes and wonder what do people mean when they talk about "this team needs a dynamic PG? As a follow up, why isn't Jose considered a dynamic PG? I am not a huge basketball/Raptors fan. Basketball is only 3rd on my sports depth chart. So if I may seem like a bit of a newbi with this question, now you know why.

Derrick Rose

rapsmannn 01-07-2011 02:52 AM

two different styles, mainly both affective in there own way

you have currently

the Chris Paul, Deron Williams past first guys but can still score if the team needs it

then you got score first and can make passes guy, D Rose, John Wall, J

I prefer the healthy CP3

Toby 01-07-2011 04:58 AM

a dynamic point guard means he's the best player on your team. So if your dynamic PG has a crummy game typically you lose badly.

rapsmannn 01-07-2011 05:30 AM

not sold on Bayless, like the heart and activity but not the court awareness and ability to handle the pg position, its not like he is a rookie, he is in year 3, he should at least know the basics of the PG position

I prefer to trade or draft a PG over anything,

carp 01-07-2011 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by rapsmannn (Post 489463)
not sold on Bayless, like the heart and activity but not the court awareness and ability to handle the pg position, its not like he is a rookie, he is in year 3, he should at least know the basics of the PG position

I prefer to trade or draft a PG over anything,

In fairness, he hasn't always played the pg position in portland, and he didn't get a load of minutes either... but he has a great oportunity to learn that here without pressure of carrying the team...

J-Roc 01-07-2011 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Snooch (Post 489213)
sooooooooo


then Bayless.

He needs to be better at shooting off the dribble, and at keeping his head up during his drive so he can find other options when the defence collapses.

He certainly has the tools, but we should play him more and more this season to see what he has. Otherwise we go into the draft needing to draft a PG.


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