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raptor123 12-16-2012 05:21 PM

What do we do with Lowry and Bargs now !!
 
The team looks so much better without Lowry and Bargs in the line up. So now what do we do with them when they return.

I think we bring them off the bench.......Bargs get his minutes over Kleiza and Lowry get his over Lucas when they come back.

Calderon is so much much better with some of the changes BC made this season. Forget the fact he leads the team in double doubles, triple doubles...leads the team as quarterback on both offence and defence.

There is no way Lowry has the mind set of a pg like Calderon...there is no way Lowry will play like Calderon at 31. We fucking gave away a first round pick . Now BC is in the pickle again some things nevr change.

Gurk 12-16-2012 05:22 PM

We ship them both outta here including Landry Fields

'trane 12-16-2012 05:27 PM

lowry's gotta get healthy soon so we can get value for jose before he injures himself and starts shitting the bed again.

jeffb 12-16-2012 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 'trane (Post 723070)
lowry's gotta get healthy soon so we can get value for jose before he injures himself and starts shitting the bed again.

Logic :lol:

Oh, and i vote other.

Cilantro 12-16-2012 05:29 PM

Trade Bargnani urgently. I hope he never put again the Raps uniform.

Lets Lowry play a few more games and then decide.

jeffb 12-16-2012 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Cilantro (Post 723074)
Trade Bargnani urgently. I hope he never put again the Raps uniform.

Lets Lowry play a few more games and then decide.

A few more games? lol


Yeah, 20 games should do it.

El Barto 12-16-2012 05:34 PM

It's funny to see how fast some people here can turn their back on some players of their team. The opposite being also true.

When I first start to read here, many people were complaining about Calderon and his absence of D. Just a week ago everybody wanted him out of Toronto, 2 great games and he is now the messiah.

Lowry showed some great things in his first 3 games, nobody complained. Now that Calderon is hot and Lowry struggling to come back after an injury, a lot of you want to "trade his ass". :confused2:

Also about Fields, the guy was playing with an injury, give him a break and allow him to prove himself before giving up on him maybe.

Dario 12-16-2012 05:38 PM

trade bargs

jeffb 12-16-2012 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by El Barto (Post 723080)
It's funny to see how fast some people here can turn their back on some players of their team. The opposite being also true.

When I first start to read here, many people were complaining about Calderon and his absence of D. Just a week ago everybody wanted him out of Toronto, 2 great games and he is now the messiah.

Lowry showed some great things in his first 3 games, nobody complained. Now that Calderon is hot and Lowry struggling to come back after an injury, a lot of you want to "trade his ass". :confused2:

Also about Fields, the guy was playing with an injury, give him a break and allow him to prove himself before giving up on him maybe.

'Tis the life of a Raptor fan. lol

Aamir 12-16-2012 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 723076)
A few more games? lol


Yeah, 20 games should do it.

The games he's been healthy he's been pretty awsome give or take a few. It's when he's injured is when he loses exposiveness and starts his chucking. I'll take a healthy Lowry over Calderon anyday. However, Jose deserves a lot of credit.

jeffb 12-16-2012 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DonMughal (Post 723088)
The games he's been healthy he's been pretty awsome give or take a few. It's when he's injured is when he loses exposiveness and starts his chucking. I'll take a healthy Lowry over Calderon anyday. However, Jose deserves a lot of credit.

This

Dario 12-16-2012 05:42 PM

people are saying trade lowry already? smh raptors fans, bargnani i understand, but not lowry

The MVP of West Hollywood 12-16-2012 05:42 PM

I wouldn't use this stretch to write off Lowry, going from a West coast road trip to home games is a pretty decent switch to flip. I wouldn't be surprised if we were winning and looking really good if Lowry was healthy

With that said Lowry flat out needs to be traded before next season. He'd take a massive contract to keep and we shouldn't be making that kind of win now commitment. And if he's unwilling to take an extension there should be NO WAY we play him next year unsigned. Trade him for Utah for their pick and Golden State's, then package those picks together to get into the top 10. That gets back most of what we gave to Houston

LX 12-16-2012 05:44 PM

Jose has done a nice job of setting the stage for Kyle's return. There's a good sense of what can be done and some role definition. There's no need for Lowry to do too much, especially if he's still nursing an injury.

BC needs to figure out how to go forward one way or another. Please - no more pg controversies. Let's just make this team stronger for the future and not get caught up in individual play.

Raptors1995 12-16-2012 05:45 PM

Keep Lowry and try to trade Bargnani. If we don't get Lowry to re-sign with us for a decent contract by next year, we trade him. We can't lose him for nothing.

TS13 12-16-2012 05:48 PM

Put them in the starting line again ?? - 8
(Ataf, Shifty.py ; Ball Don't Lie , Bargn88, Psi, Kidd, Metallikid ,zxcvbn193 ) WTF

MBailey85 12-16-2012 05:50 PM

My approach if I were coach would be to start Kyle Lowry because he will be here beyond this season. Demoting him in favor of Calderon would suggest that the team's struggles were mainly his fault which could cause trust issues between him and Casey. Lowry needs a little bit more time to gel with his teammates before a final assessment is made about him as a Raptor. Calderon has been playing well and arguably a better fit as a starting PG but let's not forget that he's already made it clear that he wants to be traded. It wouldn't be wise for the Raptors to punk their potential starting PG of the future for a player who'll more than likely leave as a free agent. Time to take advantage of Jose playing good and trade him while his value is rising.

As far as Bargnani, if he remains a Raptor I'd bring him off the bench. He could be a nice little spark if he's shooting well,that'll earn him more minutes. I think with Amir or Ed in the starting role,they get better positional rotation. My first approach would be to trade Bargnani but its hard to get fair value when a player's injured unless they're a bonafied talent,prospect or all star,none of which Bargnani is.

carp 12-16-2012 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LX (Post 723094)
Jose has done a nice job of setting the stage for Kyle's return. There's a good sense of what can be done and some role definition. There's no need for Lowry to do too much, especially if he's still nursing an injury.

BC needs to figure out how to go forward one way or another. Please - no more pg controversies. Let's just make this team stronger for the future and not get caught up in individual play.

Totally on board big cat.

th1 12-16-2012 06:02 PM

Give Lowry a chance. Bargs can gtfo

raptor123 12-16-2012 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 'trane (Post 723070)
lowry's gotta get healthy soon so we can get value for jose before he injures himself and starts shitting the bed again.

Trane i know you have the power...but seriously Calderon never lost his starting spot to Lowry. Calderon had a very good season last year hes steady had to play along side whoever and whatever BC brought in. We have a few additions and alittle more experience....Calderon is bringing it.....we have to ride Calderon right now....maybe deal Bargs but right now its Calderon.....always has been since hes been here....Lowry has not done anything in the NBA that warrants a first round pick.
What we saw today the way Calderon ran our team i am sorry to say Lowry just cant and we never be able to do that .


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