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Old 12-05-2009, 07:08 PM   #21 (permalink)
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wow, you're clearly a Bosh hater.
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:12 PM   #22 (permalink)
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FWIW Bosh is leary of playing so close to home.
Man FWIW?? I had to look that one up LOL

I can't believe you used that in a sentance LOL where did you learn that one Acie?

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Old 12-05-2009, 07:14 PM   #23 (permalink)
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There's a similar thread in a SA forum, and for me, at least, it makes a lot of sense.

There are a ton of combinations, but all would involve Bosh and Manu Ginobili. The Spurs are getting old, are lost without Duncan in the court, and he's already 33. Bosh would be the perfect choice for the new upcoming generation. Well, the Raptors know there are slim chances of keeping Bosh this offseason, we have Andrea locked up through a long term deal and we need energy, hustle players. The Spurs can offer a backcourt scorer (manu), 31, he'll be fine about injuries, his ankle looks like pefect for me. He brings energy, he drives the crowd crazy, and he's one of the clutchest players in the league!. He's a good defender and he forces turnovers. Of course, the Spurs would have to add much more, and they could throw DaJuan Blair (Defense, rebounding, pick'n roll finisher at the rim), George Hill (NBA's top defensive PG for me), future picks or the rights to Tiago Splitter (the top international center). Maybe a pack that includes both Manu and Jefferson?

Bosh + POB -> Manu + Blair + Splitter + 1st rounder?
Bosh -> Manu + Jefferson?
Bosh + POB -> Manu + Blair + Hill?
Bosh + POB -> Jefferson + Blair + Hill?

It'd make sense for both teams. TO and Colangelo really need to save this franchise. And anohter losing season would be disastrous.

What do you think?
The only way I do this trade is if we get Duncan, Parker & Blair 4 Bosh, Jose & Banks
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:16 PM   #24 (permalink)
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wow, you're clearly a Bosh hater.
No, I think he's a capable franchise player, probably between NBA 12-20 best players. But he's leaving Toronto, and that stuff I said about him isn't true, is just like saying "Manu would only be included if he agreed to sign an extension with Toronto. But, unless he agrees to a substantial pay cut, I don't think Manu would be a good fit in Toronto. His current salary is $10.7 million. Manu is already 32 and would be 33 at the start of next season. His play is going to drop off big time in the next year or two." or "Blair does not have any ACLs. A number of doctors think he'll only be in the league for 3-4 years."
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:17 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Man FWIW?? I had to look that one up LOL

I can't believe you used that in a sentance LOL where did you learn that one Acie?

BTW I just sent you Tha Tale Of Tha Tape seen!
Dude, I'm a hip cat...

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Old 12-05-2009, 07:24 PM   #26 (permalink)
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If were trading the future of our franchise in Bosh, we are going to need something more than manu. i love manu, but his age combined with his style of play do not bode well for any type of longevity. to make it worth something for us we would need to receive parker, manu and some good defensive role players. however we all know that there is little to no chance of this happening; if SA is looking to acquire bosh, it would be to squeeze out as many championships as possible before duncan bites the dust. losing both parker and manu (even in exchange for bosh) would make it very difficult to get past the likes of cle/orl/bos/la/den.

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Old 12-05-2009, 07:26 PM   #27 (permalink)
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If he doesnt want to stay im pretty sure BC could package him in a sign and trade because were the team that could offer him the most money.
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:28 PM   #28 (permalink)
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You're all wrong about it

If you take all the "ifs" as truth, Bosh would be Darko Milicic

- Bosh always starts hot, never plays well in the end of any season
- Bosh is skinny
- Bosh has the tendency to take jump shots he can't drain instead of going to the rim
- Bosh can't be a leader
- Bosh's presence destroys team chemistry, because he just wants money and complains about his situation instead of talking to his teammates and trying to improve this motherf&(% defense

I understand the point that you really, , really, , really need to be 1000% sure when you trade Bosh. Actually, the only deal that should be considered is Kobe, Gasol, Bynum and Odom for Bosh. Maybe Garnett, Pierce, Rondo and Allen (but I forgot, Garnett lost all last season, Allen is a FA and Pierce is old)

There's no Hunger player in the NBA than Manu Ginobili, specially because of guys like you. Blair just had 18/11 against the Celtics, shooting 9 of 11. His knees are great. He's flying all around the court. Yes, Splitter will stay more years on Spain. Just like Scola. In the same team
that's nonsense, Bosh has a very high perceived value in the league, so his actual value is irrelevant. Even if he would be the worse player in the league, if everybody else think he's top 10, you sell him like he's top 10.

not sure if you're aware that blair doesn't even have ACL on any of his two knees. He's almost guaranteed to leave the league within 4 years, it's a miracle he can even play with that kind of knees.

And manu, he's done - I don't think he will play more than 2 years. His health is getting worse and worse, and even spurs fans don't want him there anymore. He's just too unreliable, and he's 31, so it won't get better. And splitter will stay AT LEAST two more years there, he has a new contract that pays him more than he would make here + buyouts are always tough.
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:42 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Is no one here high on George Hill?..And does no one remember Manu singlehandedly leading his team to victory against us last month?..This is the best package I've seen hands down if you include Blair the rights to Splitter...
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:51 PM   #30 (permalink)
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If BC didn't want to spend the cash on Marion because of concerns about him slowing down due to age then why would he accept Manu?

Not the most terrible package that I've seen but we're risking A LOT, while the Spurs get one of the best young players in the league.

Not exactly a fair deal.
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Old 12-05-2009, 08:03 PM   #31 (permalink)
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No, I think he's a capable franchise player, probably between NBA 12-20 best players. But he's leaving Toronto, and that stuff I said about him isn't true, is just like saying "Manu would only be included if he agreed to sign an extension with Toronto. But, unless he agrees to a substantial pay cut, I don't think Manu would be a good fit in Toronto. His current salary is $10.7 million. Manu is already 32 and would be 33 at the start of next season. His play is going to drop off big time in the next year or two." or "Blair does not have any ACLs. A number of doctors think he'll only be in the league for 3-4 years."
Well, you're quoting me, dude, so why don't you actually make a good argument for why my points are wrong.

- Manu is 32, and he will be 33 next year. FACT.

- Manu is making $10.7 million. FACT.

- Manu has missed 38 games last year, and he's already missed 5 of the first 16 this year. FACT.

- All things being equal, injuries in players over 30 cause a quicker decline in their play than injuries to players in their 20s. FACT.

- Singing a 33 year old Manu to an extension equal to $10.7 million a year is a poor decision. Subjective, but most who understand the game would agree. In fact, that's why most people hate the back end of Hedo's deal (I managed to work in the word fact).

- Dejuan Blair was examined and it was revealed that the scar tissue in his knees was absorbed and he has no ACLs. FACT.

Dejuan Blair is a good player, BUT it is likely it will only last for 3-4 years. Again, I can't say fact, because he could do an amazing job of maintaining his upper leg muscle balance, but it's based on the opinions of some of the best doctors in America. That's why he fell in the draft. Get a clue.

You don't trade an All-Star for a package that includes a declining veteran who might not re-sign with you and prospect who might only have 3 years left in the league. It's just dumb.

Now, as I said, if you include Tony Parker, then BC should consider things, in my opinion.

Lots of people love Manu. He is very exciting. I do not want to trade Bosh for Manu and a guy who may be out of the leauge in 3 year. Too...fucking...risky. BC could probably do better.
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Old 12-05-2009, 10:43 PM   #32 (permalink)
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trade him to charlotte for gerald wallace and a few other pieces and were set for the playoffs.

or marc gasol and a few pieces.
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:00 PM   #33 (permalink)
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The only way I do this trade is if we get Duncan, Parker & Blair 4 Bosh, Jose & Banks
Better be trolling, otherwise you're a nutbar. Bosh isn't worth either of Duncan+Blair or Parker+Blair Let alone 2/3 of the Spurs core and a special prospect.
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Old 12-05-2009, 11:15 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Is no one here high on George Hill?..And does no one remember Manu singlehandedly leading his team to victory against us last month?..This is the best package I've seen hands down if you include Blair the rights to Splitter...
Eric Maynor single handedly beat us last month too....
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Old 12-06-2009, 03:01 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Is no one here high on George Hill?..And does no one remember Manu singlehandedly leading his team to victory against us last month?..This is the best package I've seen hands down if you include Blair the rights to Splitter...
I'm high

If we trade lets trade Bargs for Splitter and Bonner
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Old 12-06-2009, 03:40 AM   #36 (permalink)
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PG Tony Parker
SG Roger Mason
SF Richard Jefferson
PF Chris Bosh
C Tim Duncan

This would be domination for the spurs but I think that Bosh would put the team way over the cap limit. Aren't they paying Duncan 20mil a year till 2012? Also, Parker and Jefferson are getting paid 13mil a piece.
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Old 12-06-2009, 07:24 AM   #37 (permalink)
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uhhh no Bosh is a beast no way im giving him until he himself says he wants to go
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Old 12-06-2009, 10:51 AM   #38 (permalink)
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uhhh no Bosh is a beast no way im giving him until he himself says he wants to go
well said. I agree... I'd give up Bargs and jose for duncan
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Old 12-06-2009, 10:55 AM   #39 (permalink)
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uhhh no Bosh is a beast no way im giving him until he himself says he wants to go
I agree with you he has become a beast; looking at the difference from this year and last year its just off the chart; and also i'm waiting aswell until he say he wants out. But anyways i rather send him to Chicago since they like Bosh and it would attract Wade; I would trade Bosh+Jose+PoB for Derrick Rose + Joakim Noah
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I agree with you he has become a beast; looking at the difference from this year and last year its just off the chart; and also i'm waiting aswell until he say he wants out. But anyways i rather send him to Chicago since they like Bosh and it would attract Wade; I would trade Bosh+Jose+PoB for Derrick Rose + Joakim Noah
Money doesn't match...

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