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Bargn88 11-23-2012 11:11 PM

We lose by 1, Offensive Cylinder remember?
 
Fking officiating, inexcusable..

I realize that's just one play, but it looks damn important now.

I swear to god, the most obvious goaltending..Those fking turds just stand there and swallow those whistles

jeffb 11-23-2012 11:12 PM

Tired of the excuses. You're right, that was OI but really we can't use that as an excuse. Losing to a 2-10 team like this is on them.

Dario 11-23-2012 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 708467)
Tired of the excuses. You're right, that was OI but really we can't use that as an excuse. Losing to a 2-10 team like this is on them.

we were 3-9, same crap.

jeffb 11-23-2012 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dario (Post 708480)
we were 3-9, same crap.

Point is, if it all comes down to one call from the refs we don't deserve to win.

bigmandinky 11-23-2012 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 708483)
Point is, if it all comes down to one call from the refs we don't deserve to win.

Real Talk, we haven't had a commanding 4th quarter except for the Minnesota game...

Dario 11-23-2012 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by bigmandinky (Post 708486)
Real Talk, we haven't had a commanding 4th quarter except for the Minnesota game...

and the orlando one.

carp 11-23-2012 11:19 PM

We beat ourselves... we went away from a guy on his way to a career night.... Had Kobe had that start, he'd have ended up with 82.

jeffb 11-23-2012 11:20 PM

Missed FT's, one in the final minute by Bargs. WE blew it!

carp 11-23-2012 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 708494)
Missed FT's, one in the final minute by Bargs. WE blew it!

:cookie:

Bargn88 11-23-2012 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 708494)
Missed FT's, one in the final minute by Bargs. WE blew it!

Lowry went 1/3 when he was fouled on the 3 point shot.

jeffb 11-23-2012 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bargn88 (Post 708503)
Lowry went 1/3 when he was fouled on the 3 point shot.

Yep, as a team we can't hit FT's all of a sudden and it's killing us.

LX 11-23-2012 11:47 PM

The inability to not get killed in the paint nor finish off good defensive possessions with the rebound is killing us most of all. The points that came from the non-call in the cylinder exemplified that as well. There is just no resistance most of the time.

Why Ed Davis plays so few minutes still bewilders me. We are trying to win by trading baskets, with us shooting jumpshots and opposing teams racking up points in the paint.

Bargn88 11-23-2012 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LX (Post 708537)
The inability to not get killed in the paint nor finish off good defensive possessions with the rebound is killing us most of all. The points that came from the non-call in the cylinder exemplified that as well. There is just no resistance most of the time.

Why Ed Davis plays so few minutes still bewilders me. We are trying to win by trading baskets, with us shooting jumpshots and opposing teams racking up points in the paint.


No offence but I feel like you are making Ed Davis out to be some kind of defensive monster.

He grabbed boards, because thats what he's asked to do. However he wasn't shutting down Maxil/Drummond or Monroe.

Tommy C 11-23-2012 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 708494)
Missed FT's, one in the final minute by Bargs. WE blew it!

It's part of the game. Even the greatest players can miss 1 free throw, it's not the point. Bargs played bigtime today, and people can clearly see he is not The problem. if your best scorer gives you a huge performance and u still lose to Detroit, something is wrong.
Less than 1 min to go; No timeouts left, 2 ridiculously tough shots by your PG. then your are down by 1, no timeouts and in 7 seconds they can't get the job done. What a shame.

jeffb 11-23-2012 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tommy C (Post 708544)
Bargs played bigtime today, and people can clearly see he is not The problem.

So one great game and now he's not the problem at all. All is forgotten? You guys kill me.

Bargn88 11-24-2012 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 708549)
So one great game and now he's not the problem at all. All is forgotten? You guys kill me.

There's a different wipping boy every night, but most nights it's Bargnani because he's been here the longest.

Our last 2 games were against Charlotte and Detroit..and Derozan completely disappeared...These are 2 games that you should be filling up the stat sheet, and he was invisible.

jeffb 11-24-2012 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Bargn88 (Post 708558)
There's a different wipping boy every night, but most nights it's Bargnani because he's been here the longest.

Our last 2 games were against Charlotte and Detroit..and Derozan completely disappeared...These are 2 games that you should be filling up the stat sheet, and he was invisible.

Been here the longest, therefor has been inconsistent the longest.


+1 on the Derozan coments

LX 11-24-2012 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bargn88 (Post 708540)
No offence but I feel like you are making Ed Davis out to be some kind of defensive monster.

He grabbed boards, because thats what he's asked to do. However he wasn't shutting down Maxil/Drummond or Monroe.

He was playing excellent team defense, including getting rebounds. You'll notice that the shooting percentage of the opposing team dropped once again when he was in there.

And how suggesting he should get more than paltry minutes equates to me thinking he's a defensive monster is a real puzzle.

Dario 11-24-2012 12:06 AM

another thing to be upset about, derozan's new contract. capspace gone... please get better

Bargn88 11-24-2012 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by LX (Post 708567)
He was playing excellent team defense, including getting rebounds. You'll notice that the shooting percentage of the opposing team dropped once again when he was in there.
And how suggesting he should get more than paltry minutes equates to me thinking he's a defensive monster is a real puzzle.


I'm going to have to watch games more closely to see the impact Davis has on the defensive end. I think he's a great rebounder and tonight he was excellent on both ends, but I don't quite see the defensive impact you keep mentioning aside from the rebounds.

Is he hedging quicker? Is it possible he's facing detroits bench?


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