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Old 01-09-2014, 11:05 AM   #101 (permalink)
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i don't mind him. he really needs to shoot less but he's a decent ball man in the PNR and moves the ball pretty well around the perimeter. he struggles penetrating and collapsing the D like Lowry does though due to his size but that's sort of expected
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Old 01-09-2014, 12:08 PM   #102 (permalink)
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I was following him in SAC and unfortunate for GV, he is not a starter at this point in his career. He was horrid over in Sac also, and the only reason he started, was so that IT2 could come off the bench with 30-35 min a game. GV was basicly the guy who started games, but did not finish them. If he gets his shots to start dropping then maybe, he could become a starter, but as of now there is no way he starts unless its to lead a tank right into the ground.
He would also need to learn that he needs to pass the ball, stop jacking up ridiculous shots with the entire clock left and stop being a pylon.
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Old 01-09-2014, 12:29 PM   #103 (permalink)
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Vasquez's problem is one of fit. He's better suited to a half-court offensive team like the Knicks or Pacers, as opposed to a team that wants to have a lot of quick ball movement and run-outs which is the direction our team has been going toward. He's sort of the square peg in the round hole.

If he could have settled down, Buycks was more suited to the Raptors style. I think he was sent to the D-league to get playing time and learn to settle himself down and regain confidence. Ujiri at work.
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Old 01-09-2014, 12:48 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Although Vasquez is slow, I don't think he's necessarily better in the half court. As far as running the break, I think he might actually run it better than Lowry. He's crafty at using changes of speed to create passing angles.

Right now we're 21st in pace of play and 26th in fast break points so I'm not sure you can use the argument that we're running to much for him.

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Old 01-09-2014, 12:53 PM   #105 (permalink)
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If Buycks get his shot going then I'd pick him over vasquez. But Buycks is not much of any threat on the floor...so opposing teams just leave him alone. He needs to be aggressive to be a decent back up pg
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Although Vasquez is slow, I don't think he's necessarily better in the half court. As far as running the break, I think he might actually run it better than Lowry. He's crafty at using changes of speed to create passing angles.

Right now we're 21st in pace of play and 26th in fast break points so I'm not sure you can use the argument that we're running to much for him.

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Change of speed is more important in half-court offense, rather than fast breaks where it's get out and run. Vasquez is slower in breakouts than Kyle.

As to pace of play, if we are 21 st, that's less important than the fact we were LAST before the trade. Our pace is picking up and I think it may accelerate more even.
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Old 01-09-2014, 02:21 PM   #107 (permalink)
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More important? It's a useful skill/technique in the open court or the half court.
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Old 01-09-2014, 03:18 PM   #108 (permalink)
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My best memories of him going back to the Terrapins are of him being aggressive within early offense. He could develop a manuesque sort of role. I'm back to hoping for something like that after seeing Buycks in bakersfield.
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Old 01-19-2014, 06:16 PM   #109 (permalink)
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A bit better the last two games. Can he keep it up?
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Old 01-19-2014, 06:27 PM   #110 (permalink)
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A bit better the last two games. Can he keep it up?
He's better then he's shown even in the last two games.
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Old 01-19-2014, 06:28 PM   #111 (permalink)
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He's better then he's shown even in the last two games.
I agree that he used to be better, but can he be better again?
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Old 01-19-2014, 06:37 PM   #112 (permalink)
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I really don't like him, he's a selfish player so even if his shot is going, he's not going to fit with the pass first attitude we're trying to establish. We need him to play better the next 2-3 weeks so we can get something at the deadline. I'd rather play demar or salmons at the point than vasquez.
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Old 01-19-2014, 06:50 PM   #113 (permalink)
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I really don't like him, he's a selfish player so even if his shot is going, he's not going to fit with the pass first attitude we're trying to establish..
Look there are many things I think Vasquez is doing wrongly at the moment (as you can see in my previous posts) but HE IS A PASS FIRST PG. you don't get 9 apg in a season if you don't pass the ball.
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I really don't like him, he's a selfish player so even if his shot is going, he's not going to fit with the pass first attitude we're trying to establish. We need him to play better the next 2-3 weeks so we can get something at the deadline. I'd rather play demar or salmons at the point than vasquez.
13 assists the last 2 games in 40 minutes played. I hope that continues.
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Old 01-19-2014, 06:54 PM   #115 (permalink)
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he is not a pass first, at least not from what I've seen here. He's a shoot first and, for the most part, takes a ton of bad shots. Not sure if he played differently in NO, or if he just got that rep because of his high apg. You can have high assists in the right system without being a pass first guy. TJ Ford had nearly 8apg one season, and he was most definitely a scoring PG.

I wouldn't even have that much of a problem with him being a scoring pg, if he could score and defend. Frankly, I'd much rather have nate robinson. Maybe we can snatch jack from the cavs, although his contract is a bit tough to handle.
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Old 01-19-2014, 07:00 PM   #116 (permalink)
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he is not a pass first, at least not from what I've seen here. .
I am not going to defend him, but almost every game when he get assists the commentators (both ours and others) mention how good a vision he has, and how he is always looking to pass. In any case, there are enough other reasons to be disappointed with him at the moment, so I don't blame you
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Old 01-19-2014, 07:19 PM   #117 (permalink)
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Vasquez is definately a Pass first pg
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Old 01-19-2014, 08:59 PM   #118 (permalink)
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I am not going to defend him, but almost every game when he get assists the commentators (both ours and others) mention how good a vision he has, and how he is always looking to pass. In any case, there are enough other reasons to be disappointed with him at the moment, so I don't blame you
maybe it's me, but that's not what I'm seeing. Also, the opinion of our commentators is generally useless, not because they're not knowledgeable, but half the time they say things just so there's some background noise. The amount of platitudes you hear during a single broadcast is enough to fill a regular's person conversations for an entire year
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Old 01-19-2014, 09:57 PM   #119 (permalink)
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maybe it's me, but that's not what I'm seeing. )
I see the same. I thought a good part of his assists came in transition. He had a couple nice passes in the half court, but generally he's been looking for his own shot alot there.
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Old 01-20-2014, 06:34 PM   #120 (permalink)
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I could not watch the game, but just checked the stats. Vasquez had 15 points in 6 of 13, 3 3s, 9 assists , 7 rebounds, 2 TOs in 23 min and a +- of +23. did he play as well as the stats suggest?
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