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View Poll Results: What will be our record end december 2012 ?
5-26 1 2.50%
6-25 7 17.50%
7-24 2 5.00%
8-23 8 20.00%
9-22 10 25.00%
10-21 2 5.00%
11-20 4 10.00%
12-19 (LOL) 6 15.00%
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Old 12-16-2012, 12:43 PM   #21 (permalink)
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better if they really get the win today, i would say better (too) late than never
it's not so good for the tank
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Old 12-16-2012, 01:42 PM   #22 (permalink)
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tanking is not a good idea imo, let's get our young players some winning experiences and let them grow with that, this coming draft is pretty bad, would we be in the season 13-14, i would be full on the tank (because of wiggins), but now let's think about our prospects
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Old 12-18-2012, 12:48 AM   #23 (permalink)
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We did a decent job against Brookyln all things considered.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:30 AM   #24 (permalink)
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We beat an absolutely slumping Dallas squad where they went 0-for from three and looked anemic on offence as their best players (on the court) struggled mightily to hold on to the ball and make open looks. There is no winning streak coming soon. We're just not that good. Say it was the defense all you want last night, it wasn't. They looked terrible. Heck, we looked terrible. This optimism is not based in reality. We will struggle and I predict we won't win two in a row until one of Lowry or Bargnani come back.

Also, we're now past the two teams with pathetic frontcourts. Here comes the boom.


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Old 12-19-2012, 03:38 AM   #25 (permalink)
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We beat an absolutely slumping Dallas squad where they went 0-for from three and looked anemic on offence as their best players (on the court) struggled mightily to hold on to the ball and make open looks. There is no winning streak coming soon. We're just not that good. Say it was the defense all you want last night, it wasn't. They looked terrible. Heck, we looked terrible. This optimism is not based in reality. We will struggle and I predict we won't win two in a row until one of Lowry or Bargnani come back.

Also, we're now past the two teams with pathetic frontcourts. Here comes the boom.
Bargnani fans just can't believe it.
If AB stays healthy for the team i.e. broken we'll win all those games, safe from SA.
11-20
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:16 AM   #26 (permalink)
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Bargnani fans just can't believe it.
If AB stays healthy for the team i.e. broken we'll win all those games, safe from SA.
11-20
bargnani coming back, coming off the bench, may be the best thing to happen to this team. if this team really turns it around and makes the playoffs with Bargnani as a sixth man I could see him winning or contending for the sixth man award...
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Old 12-24-2012, 07:49 AM   #27 (permalink)
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rest 3 of those 7. we win the last 4.
great, now they should win 2 of the last 4.

we will be 11-20, that would not be bad considering the schedule ahead of us.
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Old 12-24-2012, 02:06 PM   #28 (permalink)
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We win 2 of 3 imo, maybe even beat Spurs with all this rest.
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Old 12-31-2012, 07:23 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Bargnani fans just can't believe it.
If AB stays healthy for the team i.e. broken we'll win all those games, safe from SA.
11-20
Spot on again!
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Old 12-31-2012, 10:05 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Congrats to LuffyGear2, moujik & raptor123 for correctly picking the Raptors record heading into the New Year !!!!! 11-20

Yeah Baby....The seed is planted !!!!!!!
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Old 12-31-2012, 10:10 AM   #31 (permalink)
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It's so aggravating thinking if we didn't have AB killing our team from the start of the season we'd probably be in the playoffs right now.
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It's so aggravating thinking if we didn't have AB killing our team from the start of the season we'd probably be in the playoffs right now.
I would not pin all our struggles on our poor start on Bargs.IMO you have to listen to the "word" yes the word from the lips from players from last year. Team........Trust......the seed has been planted.

When you hear players saying that we are once again playing Team D like last year.Well IMO its all about playing for the name on the front of the jersey and not the back.

IMO we had too many players starting the season with the wrong mindset.It was not all players IMO..... management had their hands in the cookie jar that just created the "ME game" and the cookies are all mine attitude !!!


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DC attitude with Bargs...hes our guy ....Bargs feels he has to lead the team in scoring.....hence volume shooter it is.....so IMO we all should give him a free pass

BC with Lowry we are giving him the keys .....big words for the new guy....a guy that did not want to be a back up behind Nash if he came here.....the guy that believes hes a foundation guy you build around....so what did you expect from Lowry ???? He went out to prove to all that hes the guy....IMO that pressure from management right from the get go was not Kyles doing.....so IMO we all should give him a free pass

DD Our high flyer.....its contract extention time......meaning show time for a young player. Again...... IMO its about me and the New Contract. I want to be the guy mentality......so IMO we all should give him a free pass


In conclusion 3 out of 5 starters were trying to play their own game....it took injuries to separate the 3......once the 3 were broken up things started to change......our record was shit to the point IMO you can say we hit rock bottom.....the seed was planted the players listened to the word Team and Trust was reborn .....IMO we are now a differant team.


So to say that Bargs was the root to all our isssues IMHO I say lets give him a free pass like we did with Lowry and DD lets see how Bargs plays once he returns. !!!
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Old 12-31-2012, 11:32 AM   #33 (permalink)
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So to say that Bargs was the root to all our isssues IMHO I say lets give him a free pass like we did with Lowry and DD lets see how Bargs plays once he returns. !!!
I know everyone is feeling upbeat, but let's not forget what dug us a hole!

First, DD didn't need any fucking "free pass"!
Lowry had to do hero ball, because we were getting killed.

It's amazing how people still try to find excuses for il Muggo!

Let's not see how Bargs plays ever again for Raptors!!
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Old 12-31-2012, 12:39 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I know everyone is feeling upbeat, but let's not forget what dug us a hole!

First, DD didn't need any fucking "free pass"!
Lowry had to do hero ball, because we were getting killed.

It's amazing how people still try to find excuses for il Muggo!

Let's not see how Bargs plays ever again for Raptors!
I blame Bargnanni. Casey had to pamper him because he was the franchise guy making the most money... while he was killing his system, I am pretty sure DC wanted to take Bargs out games that he was struggling, but who knows, management probably wanted to see AB on the court, now Casey is coaching the way he wants, Klieza struggling, well he gets no minutes, can't exactly do that with your most expensive player.. but he is out, defensive intensity is up, players are communicating better, more chemistry.. if Bargs messed up nobody said anything to him, because he is a sensitive dude, can't have that as your main guy
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I blame Bargnanni. Casey had to pamper him because he was the franchise guy making the most money... while he was killing his system, I am pretty sure DC wanted to take Bargs out games that he was struggling, but who knows, management probably wanted to see AB on the court, now Casey is coaching the way he wants, Klieza struggling, well he gets no minutes, can't exactly do that with your most expensive player.. but he is out, defensive intensity is up, players are communicating better, more chemistry.. if Bargs messed up nobody said anything to him, because he is a sensitive dude, can't have that as your main guy
Sorry, but Casey is the coach and not Bargs. Casey gets paid to decide who to put on the floor. Why isn't Fields playing more given his contract. The other thing is that Bargs is not making big franchise money ... I believe he gets a little less than Jose .. aournd $10M ... still an excellent salary. I'm certainly not taking any blame off Bargs on how he played, but Casey is the coach and gets paid to make decisions on who plays.

I think injuries and trying to force Lowry, Fields, and JV into the starting line-up vs playing AA who was clearly the better SF had a lot to do with the shit start. AA and even Pietrus playing SF has been a big help on the SF spot.
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