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Tommy C 06-27-2011 10:38 PM

Undrafted Prospects
 
Maybe we could pick up one or two players from this list for dirt cheap, since I really don`t think Weems and Wright worth the money... It looks like there are still players who may become roll players for us.

Link:
2011 NBA Draft Results: Top Undrafted Prospects (With Video Highlights) | Bleacher Report

Someguy again 06-27-2011 10:38 PM

weakest draft in years and these guys weren't drafted, that sorta says something

Tommy C 06-27-2011 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Someguy again (Post 554489)
weakest draft in years and these guys weren't drafted, that sorta says something

for the right $$$ I wouldn`t mind giving them a try, we need to tank anyways.

Someguy again 06-27-2011 10:45 PM

im not gonna give minutes to future scrubs, i'd rather see those minutes given to players who will be here in the future

Windex 06-27-2011 11:03 PM

waiting for R&B fan to say David Lighty.......

and there's McCamey and Pullen that I liked in college

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN 06-27-2011 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windex (Post 554494)
waiting for R&B fan to say David Lighty.......

and there's McCamey and Pullen that I liked in college

No doubt about it would I give David Lighty a try. He got invites to Hawks and Suns mini camps today to work out. A lot of teams late in the 2nd round said they would take him but would want him to spend one year in Europe cause they didn't have a roster spot for him this year. Others early in the 2nd round called him and said they would've taken him but one guy fell in the draft that they didn't think would. This according to Lighty agent via Columbus Dispatch reading by me.

One of the best defensive players in college basketball the last 5years. Shot 43% from 3PT. Team player. Better person.

FWIW: Bruce Bowen was a undrafted FA. A player Lighty has been compared to for his defense and 3pt shooting.



David Lighty guarding Moore who average close to 20PPG and was drafted by Boston in the 2nd round.


Someguy again 06-27-2011 11:29 PM

no offense but lighty is a 5 year senior that averaged 12 points per game, and bowen was voted into the all-big west conference first team, however i would like to see lighty flourish in the euroleagues

Windex 06-27-2011 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Someguy again (Post 554506)
no offense but lighty is a 5 year senior that averaged 12 points per game, and bowen was voted into the all-big west conference first team, however i would like to see lighty flourish in the euroleagues

dude... Bowen went to Cal St. Fullerton and Lighty went to Ohio State... those schools aren't close in terms of talent. Big Ten 10x more difficult than the Big West and a low scoring conference.

and we're talking about his defense

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN 06-27-2011 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Someguy again (Post 554506)
no offense but lighty is a 5 year senior that averaged 12 points per game, and bowen was voted into the all-big west conference first team, however i would like to see lighty flourish in the euroleagues

All-big west or 2nd big 10? I would take Big 10. Bowen average 11.4PPG in his career at Cal State and 16PPG his senior year as the main option.

Lighty average 12PPG because he was never the first option on offense. Jared Sullinger and William Buford were the first two options this year. After that is was Jon Diebler and David Lighty sharing the load. For a Big 10 player to be the 3rd/4th option on offense to average 12PPG is not bad. He has always been at best the 3rd option on Ohio State with all the talent they've had on the team since he has been here(Greg Oden, Mike Conley Jr, Daquean Cook, Evan Turner, Jared Sullinger, William Buford, Jon Diebler, and more).

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN 06-27-2011 11:36 PM

From NBA.com

Prospect Profile
David Lighty

* Full Name: David Lighty
* Position: Forward
* Height/Weight: 6-5 / 220
* Birthdate: May 27, 1998
* College: Ohio State

Strengths
* Great intangibles (leader, competitor)
* Strong defender
* Good size
* Has worked at becoming a threat from three
* Good passer

Weaknesses:
* Can he be an offensive threat in the NBA?
* Needs to make a higher percentage from the free-throw line

NBA projection:
Lighty is a versatile enough player to find a role for an NBA team that needs a hard-working, competitive winner who can also defend three positions. If the improvement he showed as a three-point shooter in his senior season carries over to the next level, that's a huge bonus.

2010-11 Season
Lighty was chosen second-team All-Big Ten and also earned a spot on the league's All-Defensive team and the Lowes Senior Class first team. He finished his career as the winningest player in Big Ten history. He was a part of 129 victories during his five seasons—one of which was cut short because of injury—at Ohio State.

Key statistics:
12.1 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 3.3 apg, 1.5 tpg, 1.5 spg, 32.1 mpg, .468 FG, .429 3PT, .627 FT

Cool statistic:
Lighty is the third player in Ohio State history to accumulate more than 1,000 points, 500 rebounds and 300 assists.(Jim Jackson and Evan Turner the other two)

Reminds me of:
Bruce Bowen

What Insiders Say:
Ohio State coach Thad Matta
"Over time he's proven just how valuable he is to our team, to our program, from both the offensive side of the basketball to the defensive side of the basketball. And really probably the biggest intangible that he has is just his ability to lead and find ways to win basketball games. … I think anytime you spend as much time with your players, and obviously David now, five years, you build a relationship. You build a trust with a guy. Honestly, if David was sitting next to me, I think he could finish my sentences and I could probably finish his sentences. And I think that's something that I love about him and just what he brings to the table. He's a tremendous kid. He's just a great person. But he's a winner."

What Outsiders Say:
Illinois coach Bruce Weber
"I've said since the beginning: I love him. I think he's the MVP. He probably won't get it because people aren't smart enough. But he's their heart and soul."

Someguy again 06-27-2011 11:43 PM

well thats the last time i'll be talking shit about ohio state players

MARTYNAS 06-27-2011 11:47 PM

Giorgi Shermadini. 7'1, not robotic or slow, young, 85% from FT line...

6cubed 06-27-2011 11:49 PM

Supposedly David Lighty could've been easily drafted in the mid-late 2nd round but the conditions were for him to spend a year developing his game overseas. He rejected that idea and ultimately hurt his stock. At the end of the day being drafted in the 2nd round doesn't guarantee much safety.

I like Corey Fisher but he's not the greatest fit for the Raps though.

Windex 06-27-2011 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Someguy again (Post 554512)
well thats the last time i'll be talking shit about ohio state players

Ohio State has enough problems anyway :police:

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN 06-27-2011 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Someguy again (Post 554512)
well thats the last time i'll be talking shit about ohio state players

Ha.

I'm just a huge Lighty fan(one of my favorite Buckeyes all time).

I can't see in the future and see if Lighty will make it as a good role player in the NBA. I hope he does and I think he will.

There is one thing you can't teach and that if effort and heart. Some players care and others don't. Some players are very talented but don't work enough to do it. After the draft Lighty posted this on twitter.

Hey its life told u I'm still blessed. U will see me in the NBA I promise u that.... And everybody stop being so sad lol sheshhhh And everybody stop being mad at the Cavs lol they did what they felt was best for the franchise got to respect that

Lighty was one of the hardest working players at Ohio State according to coaches. He wants to be in the NBA and will work hard. That is a player I would want on my team. I think he could be a Bruce Bowen/Tony Allen(defensive role player) type player in the NBA.

Windex 06-27-2011 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 6cubed (Post 554517)
Supposedly David Lighty could've been easily drafted in the mid-late 2nd round but the conditions were for him to spend a year developing his game overseas. He rejected that idea and ultimately hurt his stock. At the end of the day being drafted in the 2nd round doesn't guarantee much safety.

I like Corey Fisher but he's not the greatest fit for the Raps though.

Mr. 105 was better in his junior year and never really improved throughout his career

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN 06-27-2011 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Windex (Post 554518)
Ohio State has enough problems anyway :police:

lol.

It might not be as bad as first seems. I'm just hoping for no bowl ban and it looks better and better as the days past. I guess nothing was found from car deals and other players have proven they didn't get deal from tattoo place(like SI said). With that said there is still time for SI and ESPN to find something else as they keep coming back to Columbus searching for more stuff but lucky for Ohio State they keep proven it wrong. If there is no bowl ban then everything is gravy and Ohio State is still Ohio State! :dancing:

Dark Knight 06-27-2011 11:58 PM

Scotty Hopson please. :cookie:

Dude was rated higher than DeMar in high school. His potential is through the roof, and he plays small forward. :D

From Yahoo:

Quote:

Hopson has the prototypical small forward build and game. He is bouncy around the basket, has a good first step, and can hit the mid-range pull up off the dribble. He can also snatch a rebound and go with the ball or get out on the wing and attack the basket on the break. Still a somewhat raw player who appears to just now be figuring out how good he is, Hopson has a game with a ton of upside.

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN 06-27-2011 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6cubed (Post 554517)
Supposedly David Lighty could've been easily drafted in the mid-late 2nd round but the conditions were for him to spend a year developing his game overseas. He rejected that idea and ultimately hurt his stock. At the end of the day being drafted in the 2nd round doesn't guarantee much safety.

I like Corey Fisher but he's not the greatest fit for the Raps though.

Yeah the newspaper in Columbus reported that a couple days ago after talking to his agent. As the people on draft day said sometimes it is better to be a undrafted FA then drafted in the 2nd round cause you get to choose the team you try out for. Today Lighty said he worked out with the Hawks and has a workout coming up with the Suns. Although with the lockout about to happen not really a good time to be a undrafted FA to prove you belong. One year in Europe might be the best option for him anyways.

Tommy C 06-28-2011 12:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Someguy again (Post 554492)
im not gonna give minutes to future scrubs, i'd rather see those minutes given to players who will be here in the future

I rather see this guys you call scrubs than Dorsey, Weems, Wright who for sure not gonna be part of the future. At least by trying to find undrafted role-players you may find someone serviceable.
Let`s admit it. Weems, Dorsey or Wright are not gonna impact our wins and loses next years, so what`s the point of paying them if they are not part of the future? (at least 2 of them are good as gone after this year, if we resign them).
If BC wanna re-build he better show some new attitude and system because his way in the last 3-4 years was very mediocre at best. This kind of players are very low risk at this point and time, totally different than drafting Jonas.


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