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Old 04-15-2012, 10:46 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Undersized, really? He's 6'6 and 220, big enough to play sf for the Kings.
Anyways I don't see why shouldn't try and snag him. Maybe Calderon and Ed Davis would do the trick?
Throw in the Indy second rounder and I don't know if they turn that down.
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Old 04-15-2012, 10:49 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Agree 6'6 is a perfect size for a sg
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Old 04-15-2012, 10:53 PM   #23 (permalink)
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I posted on the trade thread:
TORONTO GETS:
Tyreke Evans
UTAH 2nd round pick

UTAH GETS:
Jose Calderon

SACRAMENTO GETS:
DeMar DeRozan
Devin Harris
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:07 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I posted on the trade thread:
TORONTO GETS:
Tyreke Evans
UTAH 2nd round pick

UTAH GETS:
Jose Calderon

SACRAMENTO GETS:
DeMar DeRozan
Devin Harris
Seems like we're giving too much up.... even with Tyreke, we need DD on the wings... we're wing poor. Ed is a much better chip to play
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:28 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Seems like we're giving too much up.... even with Tyreke, we need DD on the wings... we're wing poor. Ed is a much better chip to play
and there's no need to get utah involved when we have indy's second round pick.
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:36 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I prefer Eric Gordon. Crafty off the dribble in his own right, and a much better shooter.
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Old 04-15-2012, 11:40 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I prefer Eric Gordon. Crafty off the dribble in his own right, and a much better shooter.
I think he's likely less available.... but I'd still prefer Tyreke.... if healthy, he can be a lockdown defender and a stat stuffer.
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Old 04-16-2012, 02:02 AM   #28 (permalink)
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Tyreke Evans has chronic injuries, no true defined role/position, a PER of 16.5, has a career TS% barely hovering around 50% (and under 50% this year), and is a mediocre defender to boot. Yes he rebounds pretty well and gets his share of assists, but some of you want to give him a near-max contract? Good God.
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Old 04-16-2012, 04:12 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Throw in the Indy second rounder and I don't know if they turn that down.
Why would they want Calderon, Ed Davis and a second?


I mean they do need a PG and maybe a PF there too, but they can get much better than those players for Tyreke.

Wasn't he rookie of the year?

I don't know why people like the idea of giving up DeMar. The guy loves it here and is playing well since the all-star break. Everyone's acting like he's below-average with no potential and talent.


Tyreke is definitely better in most aspects, but the 2 position shouldn't be something we would be looking into with other holes in the lineup. Also, like someone else mentioned...Tyreke has been injured a lot lately while DeMar has been very reliable so far since he's come into the league.
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Old 04-16-2012, 09:43 AM   #30 (permalink)
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I don't know why people like the idea of giving up DeMar. The guy loves it here and is playing well since the all-star break. Everyone's acting like he's below-average with no potential and talent.
Tyreke over DD.. I don't think so
Derozan has more upside then Tyreke, sure they can't shoot the three, but Evans can't even shoot inside the 3-Point line

He has a great handle.. but I don't see his game progressing as much

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Old 04-16-2012, 10:17 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Despite DDs shooting flaws he's a decent mid range shooter coming off screens. And even better when he figures out his true strength is driving into the bucket getting fouled and coming off screens. The only time I can recall Tyreke being well was his rookie season after that he's been injry prone and mediocre at best. Ill rather have DD over Tyreke personally because I feel with an improved shot and dribble hell be a complete player.

Ill assume that players Raptors would rather target if they were to trade Ed and DD would be either Gordon or Curry. Someone who can really create their own shot on the wings as that i what this team really needs currently. But both are injury prone and DD is like an iron man
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Old 04-16-2012, 10:30 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Despite DDs shooting flaws he's a decent mid range shooter coming off screens. And even better when he figures out his true strength is driving into the bucket getting fouled and coming off screens. The only time I can recall Tyreke being well was his rookie season after that he's been injry prone and mediocre at best. Ill rather have DD over Tyreke personally because I feel with an improved shot and dribble hell be a complete player.

Ill assume that players Raptors would rather target if they were to trade Ed and DD would be either Gordon or Curry. Someone who can really create their own shot on the wings as that i what this team really needs currently. But both are injury prone and DD is like an iron man
While I agree with you for the most part the thing that troubles me about dd is that even though he plays like every game, the past 2 years the first Halph of each season DeRozan has been horrible...
Then in the 2nd Halph he picks it up?
He needs to play like this all season.
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:06 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I really don't understand why everyone expects demar to be this superstar. Demar could have easily been a bust, like Wesley Johnson, who hasn't really shown any real signs of improvement. Yet he has played solid, doesn't force much, and when he does, it's because of our lack of offensive talent.

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Old 04-16-2012, 11:16 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Other than his rookie season, hes never been anything that impressive.
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Old 04-16-2012, 11:21 AM   #35 (permalink)
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I really don't understand why everyone expects demar to be this superstar. Demar could have easily been a bust, like Wesley Johnson, who hasn't really shown any real signs of improvement. Yet he has played solid, doesn't force much, and when he does, it's because of our lack of offensive talent.
My expectations of DeMar is for him to be a solid 20+ppg scorer get 5+rpg, dish out 4-5 apg & I am willing to wait 1 more year for it, but I'm on the fence with DeMar...
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:31 PM   #36 (permalink)
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From ESPN's article today about Tyreke:

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His rate of free throw attempts has fallen by a third from one half to the next. Two years ago as a rookie, Evans averaged 6.5 foul shots per game; this season he's at 4.3.

Nevertheless, Evans' biggest disappointment remains on the defensive end. He came out of Memphis with the potential to become one of the NBA's best perimeter defenders. He excelled on that end in his lone college season under John Calipari. With his size, stretch, athleticism and wingspan, he seemed like a surefire All-Defense candidate. It just hasn't turned out that way. This season, the Kings are 2.4 points per 100 possessions better on defense without Evans. According to our positional rankings, Sacramento ranks 24th defending point guards and dead last against shooting guards.
So please, give him a max! Throw out his rookie season and the last two do not look so hot.
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From ESPN's article today about Tyreke:



So please, give him a max! Throw out his rookie season and the last two do not look so hot.
the situation in sacramento is just horrible. you have a team full of young guys with little veteran presence, a coach that can't handle the situation and a headcase in cousins. a young player like tyreke can quickly lose motivation when there's nothing to play for. under a more structured and discipline team with a good head coach, tyreke can really break out imo
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the situation in sacramento is just horrible. you have a team full of young guys with little veteran presence, a coach that can't handle the situation and a headcase in cousins. a young player like tyreke can quickly lose motivation when there's nothing to play for. under a more structured and discipline team with a good head coach, tyreke can really break out imo
I agree that he certainly has more potential than he's showing right now. But I certainly won't pay max or near max money on the hope that he could become a max or near max player at some point in the future.

In every advanced category basketball-reference tracks (PER, Usage rate, WS/48, RB%, AST%, TOV%, Ortg, Drtg, STL%, eFG%, TS%) he is worse than his rookie year. That frightens me no matter what team he's on.
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:56 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Fuck it let's go all out:

Dragic
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Bargnani
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Old 04-16-2012, 01:56 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Casey could be a very solid stabilizing influence on Tyreke.... Sactown has been a mess for a while, despite how much energy Tyreke brought to that franchise two seasons ago.
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