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pye_guy 01-08-2011 01:06 PM

TSN Broadcast Quality
 
TSN's HD Raptor's games have become so pixelated that they are unwatchable...is it my cable company [Cogeco] or TSN? Is anyone else experiencing this? I'm now forced to view the games on "low-def". Thanx, in advance, for your input.

Aar_Canada 01-08-2011 01:12 PM

It's Cogeco. Their network - infrastructure or whatever - is so compressed that any movement causes that crap. I hate it. Very rarely do you see a true HD channel. Sometimes late at night, CBC News will be crystal clear. It's amazing. And it's sad that we don't get to see that very often.

J-Roc 01-08-2011 01:24 PM

I PVR'd the game on Cogeco HD last night and it was fine.

jeffb 01-08-2011 02:27 PM

I'm with Rogers and i find TSN HD clearer then Sportsnet HD.

Acie 01-08-2011 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by J-Roc (Post 490075)
I PVR'd the game on Cogeco HD last night and it was fine.

Same here.

halphbreedballer 01-08-2011 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 490089)
I'm with Rogers and i find TSN HD clearer then Sportsnet HD.

I dont notice the difference

jeffb 01-08-2011 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halphbreedballer (Post 490098)
I dont notice the difference

It's not a huge difference, but i find TSN a little more clear.

halphbreedballer 01-08-2011 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pye_guy (Post 490068)
TSN's HD Raptor's games have become so pixelated that they are unwatchable...is it my cable company [Cogeco] or TSN? Is anyone else experiencing this? I'm now forced to view the games on "low-def". Thanx, in advance, for your input.

What is your digital cable box settings?

If it's 720p then you will get massive pixel problems if you have an hd tv
If it's 1080i then I think u might want to get a different box

jeffb 01-08-2011 03:22 PM

Also, what kind of cables do you used (ie: HDMI?)

surreyjack 01-08-2011 03:24 PM

The Houston Vs. Orlando game was in horrible quality last night, I couldn't watch it.

jeffb 01-08-2011 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by surreyjack (Post 490109)
The Houston Vs. Orlando game was in horrible quality last night, I couldn't watch it.

It's wierd, the clearest games to watch seem to be Laker games at the staple Center.

INSIDER 01-08-2011 04:13 PM

check your HD box.
i had the same thing happen to mine last year... the feed would cut out, get pixelated, and pause every so often. when i called rogers they told me to boot off and on again, and when that didnt work they told me my box was probably broken - which it was.
if you are renting your box just swap it at a Rogers store... if you bought it, well then you're up shit creek.

Sick, Wicked and Nasty! 01-08-2011 04:37 PM

I have the same issue with Raps games, other than on Sportsnet. Other channels are fine and other broadcasts of nba are fine... just Raptors. I have a lower end plasma and hd box...but again on the other broadcasts the image is clear as for most hd channels.

Don Vito 01-08-2011 05:00 PM

I'm with Rogers as well and the quality of TSN HD is always excellent.

Ex2k 01-08-2011 05:06 PM

Its the signal stregth that is coming into your home... Call them up and have them send over a tech ... they will test it and boost it if need be...

Also swap out your box ...

LX 01-08-2011 05:14 PM

My box died on New Years day. It had been acting up a lot, including much freezing while on TSN. With the new box it can handle the better quality signal much better. It was actually a good thing that I was forced to get a new box.

BballWatcher 01-08-2011 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aar_Canada (Post 490072)
It's Cogeco. Their network - infrastructure or whatever - is so compressed that any movement causes that crap. I hate it. Very rarely do you see a true HD channel. Sometimes late at night, CBC News will be crystal clear. It's amazing. And it's sad that we don't get to see that very often.

The sports feeds aren't great a lot of the time. All cable companies overcompress HD streams so that they can fit more channels using less bandwidth.

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The higest resolution TV is broadcast in is 1080i. Even if you have one of the new Bell/Rogers boxes that supports 1080p, it just means that it's taking the 1080i stream, combining even and odd frames to make a 1080p image and sending it to your TV. If you have a 1080i box, your TV does the 1080i> 1080p conversion; it's not much difference either way.

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The main reason things like news and nature shows look so good in HD isn't always the feed quality, it's because sports have a lot of fast movement. Because the cable companies cheap out on bandwidth, where you really notice the difference is on fast moving scenes.


It's especially bad if you've watched some Blu-Ray movies lately. Blu-Ray video is typically 30-40Mb/s of bandwidth (1080p); HDTV bandwith usually around 5-2bMB/s and I suspect that it's really more like 5-10Mb/s.

halphbreedballer 01-08-2011 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by surreyjack (Post 490109)
The Houston Vs. Orlando game was in horrible quality last night, I couldn't watch it.

Agreed but that is the US feeds fault...

halphbreedballer 01-08-2011 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BballWatcher (Post 490174)
The sports feeds aren't great a lot of the time. All cable companies overcompress HD streams so that they can fit more channels using less bandwidth.

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The higest resolution TV is broadcast in is 1080i. Even if you have one of the new Bell/Rogers boxes that supports 1080p, it just means that it's taking the 1080i stream, combining even and odd frames to make a 1080p image and sending it to your TV. If you have a 1080i box, your TV does the 1080i> 1080p conversion; it's not much difference either way.

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The main reason things like news and nature shows look so good in HD isn't always the feed quality, it's because sports have a lot of fast movement. Because the cable companies cheap out on bandwidth, where you really notice the difference is on fast moving scenes.


It's especially bad if you've watched some Blu-Ray movies lately. Blu-Ray video is typically 30-40Mb/s of bandwidth (1080p); HDTV bandwith usually around 5-2bMB/s and I suspect that it's really more like 5-10Mb/s.

Pretty good info...But you didn't mention anything about progressive scan lines?

pye_guy 01-08-2011 06:37 PM

Thanx, for the input
 
Much appreciated for all your input...I'm using an "old" Sony 53" BIG screen...never had a problem w/ the hd feed before...ALL other channels are fine in HD...just TSN...starting about a month ago...the WJH was flaky but the Raptor ball has been consistently bad...alas, w/ the monopolistic nature of cable today, I'm forced to use Cogeco...am going to follow the advice given here and contact them and have a tech come out to test the feed and the HD box...my TV does not handle HDMI cables :-(

Again, thanx for the info/tips!


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