Triple PG offense works?
Old 02-22-2009, 08:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I was watching College basketball the other day, (MICHIGAN STATE GONNA WIN IT)
and I noticed that Tennessee uses a unique kind of offense.

3 PG or 2 PG and a SG at the backcourt.
2 running Fowards at the front.

Though blocking shots was difficult on defense, there was a huge amount of steals in that game (14 to be exact), and transition offense worked smoothly (30 points on fast breaks).
Now I thought about it and if we used this for Raptors offense it might use Marion to his full ability. Marion likes to score transition baskets and we score better on 3 on 2 Possession fast breaks.
Also our offense becomes faster and more full court which is useful against half court grinding teams such as Boston and Spurs.

Starting lineup:
Roko, Calderon and AP on backcourt
Marion and Bosh on Front

well this is my thought, I wanna hear your opinion on this.
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Old 02-22-2009, 08:50 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The only problem with that is, when they have to play halfcourt defence they will get killed.
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The only problem with that is, when they have to play halfcourt defence they will get killed.
the pressure from double PGs on players coughs up alot of steals.
Tennessee faced the best half court grinding team in their conference and slaughtered them 73 - 56.

However Offensive rebounding, Tennessee was murdered in (20-7) and that is a major flaw in this type of game
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There would be mismatches in this kinda of play, but i do like the idea of it.
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Old 02-22-2009, 09:11 PM   #5 (permalink)
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3 guard offenses work in the NCAA because in general the players are smaller and less athletic.

In the NBA SFs are MUCH bigger, stronger and faster which limits the success that you can have with this ploy. Not to say that it can't work in short stretches... but over the long run it's suicide.
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3 guard offenses work in the NCAA because in general the players are smaller and less athletic.

In the NBA SFs are MUCH bigger, stronger and faster which limits the success that you can have with this ploy. Not to say that it can't work in short stretches... but over the long run it's suicide.
Well nobody is that dumb to use it in the long run cept for Triano.
(note JO, Bosh and Bargs on at the same time for too long = open 3s all day)
but I rather run this type of offense on teams who are slow, like Spurs and Detroit in some moments to throw their game off guard.
but you have a point with the whole SF problem, I can't imagine Marcus Banks getting a steal off Carmelo or Lebron.
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Well nobody is that dumb to use it in the long run cept for Triano.
(note JO, Bosh and Bargs on at the same time for too long = open 3s all day)
but I rather run this type of offense on teams who are slow, like Spurs and Detroit in some moments to throw their game off guard.
but you have a point with the whole SF problem, I can't imagine Marcus Banks getting a steal off Carmelo or Lebron.
Lol... Triano tried the 3 bigs for a stretch the same way that Sam did. Then he went away from it after what? 2-3 games when he saw that it wasn't working. He's not a complete moron. Far from it.

I still don't know why Jose is playing because he STILL doesn't look 100%. We should just be playing Ukic and Banks and AP the rest of the way.

Let Jose rest so that he's back at 100% for the playoffs (if we make it by some miracle).
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Old 02-22-2009, 09:56 PM   #8 (permalink)
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i think jose is afraid he'll lose his starting spot if he sits for the rest of the season
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Old 02-22-2009, 10:23 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I don't like this cause Bargs will be back on the bench
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college basketball is different than NBA
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Old 02-23-2009, 07:20 AM   #11 (permalink)
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It can work infact, but not as a style of play, rather as available option for couple of minutes, it is rather common in Europe basketball but even then u have to have certen PG profile to work, u can not play it just because u have 4 PGs on roster. Our national team plays it alot as does Greece also but as mentioned before there arent powerfull SFs in Europe and we both have two 2meter playmakers

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It can work infact, but not as a style of play, rather as available option for couple of minutes, it is rather common in Europe basketball but even then u have to have certen PG profile to work, u can not play it just because u have 4 PGs on roster. Our national team plays it alot as does Greece also but as mentioned before there arent powerfull SFs in Europe and we both have two 2meter playmakers
+1. I like it as a different look, but not as a go-to system.
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I love how people thumbs down my opinion.

horray for freedom of speech....
and horray for respecting others thoughts and ideas.
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college basketball is different than NBA
Exactly, different rules too. You see a lot more zone in college ball.
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I love how people thumbs down my opinion.

horray for freedom of speech....
and horray for respecting others thoughts and ideas.
That doesn't really matter. You have your opinion and others have theirs and since they don't agree they gave you a thumbs down
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Exactly, different rules too. You see a lot more zone in college ball.
its more of a disorganized 2-3 zone with a man on man influence.
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That doesn't really matter. You have your opinion and others have theirs and since they don't agree they gave you a thumbs down
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I don't like this cause Bargs will be back on the bench
Bargs coming off the bench averaging 25 ppg and 8 rpg?

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no problems sg_a. that said, i don't agree with you rpoint at all we'd get killed without any real size on the perimiter. that idea works well in college where you have a lot of small guys with ball handling skills and few great long-range shooters. in teh nba you need big guards that can score in the paint and athletic guys that can shoot from behind the arc. the nba is just too different a game.
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