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jeffb 12-02-2009 01:58 PM

Triano (Mr. Delusional) on the Fan590
 
Triano was on the Fan this morning sounding tired and seemingly making excuses for tonights possible loss by saying they got in at 3:30 a.m.?? This guy seriously needs to go.


Jay Triano - The FAN 590 Toronto - Audio on Demand

BryanColangelo 12-02-2009 02:01 PM

I'm not firing Jay. End...of...story.

jeffb 12-02-2009 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanColangelo (Post 282540)
I'm not firing Jay. End...of...story.

Yeah.........already not funny.

lumi398 12-02-2009 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 282538)
Triano was on the Fan this morning sounding tired and seemingly making excuses for tonights possible loss by saying they got in at 3:30 a.m.?? This guy seriously needs to go.


Jay Triano - The FAN 590 Toronto - Audio on Demand


He said the team members didn't make their shots. This is fact, and if you call it an excuse then does it even matter? The players didn't hit the shots. If the players did hit the shots and win the game i bet you wouldn't have called him mr delusional, but of course the coach is the first scapegoat for all teams failures.

RAPMAN 12-02-2009 02:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 282538)
Triano was on the Fan this morning sounding tired and seemingly making excuses for tonights possible loss by saying they got in at 3:30 a.m.?? This guy seriously needs to go.


Jay Triano - The FAN 590 Toronto - Audio on Demand

Hey Jeffb,

Last week, in the "FIRE TRIANO" thread, you said how its too early to judge Triano, and claimed how many fans were quick to judge and claimed were were fickle. Ready to eat some crow?

jeffb 12-02-2009 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lumi398 (Post 282553)
He said the team members didn't make their shots. This is fact, and if you call it an excuse then does it even matter? The players didn't hit the shots. If the players did hit the shots and win the game i bet you wouldn't have called him mr delusional, but of course the coach is the first scapegoat for all teams failures.

Please, this guy is delusional, stubborn, seemingly has no issues with their "coverages", infelexible. The fact that this is our 3rd straight rookie coach going back 7yrs pisses me off. IMO you get a rookie coach when you're rebuilding, bot when you're trying to take the next step and win a playoff round. I really like what BC's done since he's come here, but he made a drastic error when he retained Triano.

Windex 12-02-2009 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumi398 (Post 282553)
He said the team members didn't make their shots. This is fact, and if you call it an excuse then does it even matter? The players didn't hit the shots. If the players did hit the shots and win the game i bet you wouldn't have called him mr delusional, but of course the coach is the first scapegoat for all teams failures.

Smitch's influence

lumi398 12-02-2009 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 282560)
Please, this guy is delusional, stubborn, seemingly has no issues with their "coverages", infelexible. The fact that this is our 3rd straight rookie coach going back 7yrs pisses me off. IMO you get a rookie coach when you're rebuilding, bot when you're trying to take the next step and win a playoff round. I really like what BC's done since he's come here, but he made a drastic error when he retained Triano.

I didn't say Triano isn't a crappy coach. I said if the raptors actually made their 3's and won the game you wouldn't see so many of these threads scapegoating triano. Do people actually think a coach's ability to be a good coach has anything to do with Hedo and company making their 3's?

Apparently some people do Lol.

jeffb 12-02-2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by RAPMAN (Post 282555)
Hey Jeffb,

Last week, in the "FIRE TRIANO" thread, you said how its too early to judge Triano, and claimed how many fans were quick to judge and claimed were were fickle. Ready to eat some crow?

Yep! I did say that i disaproved of him from the begining, and at the time we were 2 games under .500 and it was too soon to be talking about firing him. But in the time since then i've grown unbelieveably tired of hearing him make excuses and quite frankly some of his comments in the last week or so have been down right scary. From admitting to not practicing any zone defence to not showing any flexibility on the lineup and always saying "i like our coverages" to "we just didn't make shots".............i've decided to say i should have voted yes, because this guy is not even close to being the man for the job. And it's painful to listen to him at this point, even moreso then watching the team get massacred on a nightly basis.

RAPMAN 12-02-2009 02:54 PM

I've been saying that Triano was the wrong choice since the beginning. I work in the business world, and when you hire a project leader, manager, or director, you hire someone who has the experience to do the job. With the exception of working one year with Kevin O'Neil, he doesn't have any experience or backround of implenting a succesful defensive system. When a employee is not performing their job successfully, he assigns blame elsewhere, gives excuses or a combination of both. Just what Triano is doing right now. Triano is in over his head.

jeffb 12-02-2009 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RAPMAN (Post 282576)
I've been saying that Triano was the wrong choice since the beginning. I work in the business world, and when you hire a project leader, manager, or director, you hire someone who has the experience to do the job. With the exception of working one year with Kevin O'Neil, he doesn't have any experience or backround of implenting a succesful defensive system. When a employee is not performing their job successfully, he assigns blame elsewhere, gives excuses or a combination of both. Just what Triano is doing right now. Triano is in over his head.

I've said that since last year. The fact is this summer BC made a commitment to adding Turkoglu + much needed depth JJ/Beli/Amir/Wright and all of that was to try and at the very least get out of the first round. Hiring a rookie coach for that stage of developpment was a huge mistake.

At the same time, he made that choice and when people were starting to panic after less then 10 games i found it rediculous that early, but seriously, like you said the guy is in way over his head.

lumi398 12-02-2009 03:01 PM

Triano in his own words: "Damn guys please just make your shots man, i'll be happy, you'll be happy common guys what else do you need?"

.40 Cal Flakes 12-02-2009 03:09 PM

Although JT was never my first choice for coach, I was one of the fans (and still am) that fully supported Jay as head coach...but I gotta admit some of the stuff he's been saying the last couple of weeks has got me worried and confused. He seems to be making excuses. Also I don't like how he seems to be inflexible about some things like the defensive strategy. Still though, JT should not be getting all the blame for the poor start. The players need to man up and kick their game up a notch.

Apollo 12-02-2009 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanColangelo (Post 282540)
I'm not firing Jay. End...of...story.

Hey Brian, Don Cherry called. He wants his collars back.

jeffb 12-02-2009 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Apollo (Post 282586)
Hey Brian, Don Cherry called. He wants his collars back.

Don Cherry is a dick!

lumi398 12-02-2009 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by .40 Cal Flakes (Post 282585)
Although JT was never my first choice for coach, I was one of the fans (and still am) that fully supported Jay as head coach...but I gotta admit some of the stuff he's been saying the last couple of weeks has got me worried and confused. He seems to be making excuses. Also I don't like how he seems to be inflexible about some things like the defensive strategy. Still though, JT should not be getting all the blame for the poor start. The players need to man up and kick their game up a notch.



The players are laughing it out since the coach is taking all the heat and not them.... not yet that is.

Triano has 2 choices:

1. make excuses, blaming others - like yeah we played back to back games man!

2. Blame himself - I as a head coach suck but i want to keep this a secret so i can get my paycheck, please don't tell anyone!!!



Triano chose #1!!!
good choice!

jeffb 12-02-2009 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumi398 (Post 282588)
The players are laughing it out since the coach is taking all the heat and not them.... not yet that is.

Triano has 2 choices:

1. make excuses, blaming others - like yeah we played back to back games man!

2. Blame himself - I as a head coach suck but i want to keep this a secret so i can get my paycheck, please don't tell anyone!!!



Triano chose #1!!!
good choice!


3rd option- Man up and say something has to change because things as they stand just aren't working. That i can at least respect. Good coaches adapt and adjust. Status quo almost 20 games in, isn't cutting the mustard.

BryanColangelo 12-02-2009 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Apollo (Post 282586)
Hey Brian, Don Cherry called. He wants his collars back.

My tailor would be very insulted by that comparison.

RAPMAN 12-02-2009 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 282579)
The fact is this summer BC made a commitment to adding Turkoglu + much needed depth JJ/Beli/Amir/Wright and all of that was to try and at the very least get out of the first round. Hiring a rookie coach for that stage of developpment was a huge mistake.

You're right. The raptors spent over $120 million in contracts in the summer for Bargnani, Hedo, and Jack. The summer before, they give Calderon a $40 million dollar contract. The Raptors are ready to give Bosh a max contract. Why do go cheap with a rookie coach. Its like giving keys of your Porsche to a teenager. In both cases, they are both going to crash.

lumi398 12-02-2009 03:30 PM

yeah I have a book of 99100 legit excuses to make. Sent a copy to Triano. He's already chosen 82 legit ones just in case.


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