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Old 04-15-2011, 10:54 AM   #81 (permalink)
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It's a good thing that we are doing a sign and trade with NJ for Deron giving up Bargs and Jose.

Ok, it's a completely unsubstantiated rumour but I want evidence of me calling it somewhere just in case
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Old 04-15-2011, 10:57 AM   #82 (permalink)
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I thought I heard Bargnani say it during the new conference:

"I do things that are much more complicated than rebounds and defence.

Maybe the Raptors purposely cut the video link short, but reading the papers this morning confirms the quote. From the man who said last year he wants to be face of the franchise. Great quote from the leader of the franchise.

Bargnani not the answer in the middle | Basketball | Sports | Toronto Sun
Great article, my thoughts exactly.
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Old 04-15-2011, 11:01 AM   #83 (permalink)
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Is he wrong?

He's saying it's hard to perfect the craft of scoring the ball. If offense was more about effort than refining and perfecting certain skills Reggie would score 30 a game. Obviously, a good part of defense is all about being prepared and putting effort in during the game, which he seems to be admitting to not doing.
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Is he wrong?

He's saying it's hard to perfect the craft of scoring the ball. If offense was more about effort than refining and perfecting certain skills Reggie would score 30 a game. Obviously, a good part of defense is all about being prepared and putting effort in during the game, which he seems to be admitting to not doing.
In other words, he put the dedication and effort in refining his skills offensively, but didn't put the same dedication and effort on the defensive end. Sounds like a guy who wants to play only offense. Even Triano admitted during his exit interview with Bargnani that he asked the big man if he wanted to be a 20 point scorer on a 22 win team.

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Old 04-15-2011, 12:05 PM   #85 (permalink)
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Lets look at the starting lineup....Calderon what 6 yrs...DD 2 yrs..JJ 2 yrs...AJ..5 yrs...Bargs 5 yrs...If we're speaking rationally Calderon, AJ and Bargs gotta go as they are defensive liabilities as theyve become veterans and DD and JJ are only 2nd yr players ....Let's call a spade a spade I HATE Bargs and Jose's game and AJ, he's a good bench player with no reason being on a starting team other then zero depth.

If we had a solid centre, I'd still take a 1st yr AD at PF then Bargs at the PF spot sorry. Bargs is SHIT! This is our future:

pg - ? / JB
sg - DD /
sf - JJ / ?
pf - AD / AJ
c - ? / ?

Sorry this is a quick response, just saw another Bargs thread and thought I'd put my 2 cents in lol
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I'm sure it's already been said, but this is way too little far too late.

My stance is that if the Raps try to force feed me Bargs next year, I will lose my passion for the team.

Clearly this is a case of a GM trying to make his wrong into a right with no regaurd to the franchise he is ruining in the process.
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Old 04-15-2011, 12:56 PM   #87 (permalink)
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yeah - I thought it was pretty obvious that Triano and Colangelo need to work in tandem. That's how it's done right?
And I'm sure they do, but publicly, triano can't say that he wants him gone. I think his words are as harsh as they could have been.
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I'm sure it's already been said, but this is way too little far too late.

My stance is that if the Raps try to force feed me Bargs next year, I will lose my passion for the team.

Clearly this is a case of a GM trying to make his wrong into a right with no regaurd to the franchise he is ruining in the process.
I think thats a little much.
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has anyone noticed that the end of the last Raptors today show, they showed all the young guys but not bargs?
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has anyone noticed that the end of the last Raptors today show, they showed all the young guys but not bargs?
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on defence Bargs is fine, Bargs is right the team needs to play better overall defence,

whats was our record without Bargs this year( just as bad if not worse)

which i think points out our team defence is weak


where Bargs must improve on is geting rebounds that come his way, he can't let the big beat him to the ball or just simply let the big get the rebound with no effort, thats the part that pisses me off about Bargs,

the guy needs to get tough, and start pushing guys around for rebounds
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on defence Bargs is fine, Bargs is right the team needs to play better overall defence,

whats was our record without Bargs this year( just as bad if not worse)

which i think points out our team defence is weak


where Bargs must improve on is geting rebounds that come his way, he can't let the big beat him to the ball or just simply let the big get the rebound with no effort, thats the part that pisses me off about Bargs,

the guy needs to get tough, and start pushing guys around for rebounds
Bargnani is an absolutely terrible help defender. Man-to-man he's fine, but if you're going to play in the post, especially at center, then you need to be a good help defender.

As for the record without Bargnani, they weren't any better, but they're all young and for the last part of the year were playing with an 8 man rotation. I'd rather see effort out there and lose, then see no effort and still lose.
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Bargnani is an absolutely terrible help defender. Man-to-man he's fine, but if you're going to play in the post, especially at center, then you need to be a good help defender.

As for the record without Bargnani, they weren't any better, but they're all young and for the last part of the year were playing with an 8 man rotation. I'd rather see effort out there and lose, then see no effort and still lose.
It's part of the game, get over it.
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It's part of the game, get over it.
That makes no sense. Well done.

How old are you, really?

You seem to know as much about basketball as a ten year old, so if that's how old you are, then forgive me, you're just acting your age.
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That makes no sense. Well done.

How old are you, really?

You seem to know as much about basketball as a ten year old, so if that's how old you are, then forgive me, you're just acting your age.
you're so condescending.... well done.

maybe you should act my age too....

As far as your comment, I disagreed... no harm, no foul.... I still look up to you.
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