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Old 04-14-2011, 10:09 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Next year is when all shall be revealed; either his minutes will start getting cut, and he'll gripe and demand a trade (which gives him an excuse to get him off our hands), or he'll man up and start averaging 7+ rbs and 1.5 blk to go with his 22+ ppg and then not only will he shut up most of his haters, but contribute moreover in a team sense.
It's always next year... Y didn't it happen this year when Bargs got every chance to have the ball in his hands??
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Old 04-14-2011, 10:10 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Next year is when all shall be revealed; either his minutes will start getting cut, and he'll gripe and demand a trade (which gives him an excuse to get him off our hands), or he'll man up and start averaging 7+ rbs and 1.5 blk to go with his 22+ ppg and then not only will he shut up most of his haters, but contribute moreover in a team sense.
That's just a terrible way to build a team. Either he's a good fit or not. He's had every chance in the world over the last 5 years. If he needs to show more after all that, then it's got to be a better approach to find a replacement that fits.

And the rebounding is an easy target. More important is his lack of defensive prowess, often with very little effort showing.
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Old 04-14-2011, 10:19 PM   #63 (permalink)
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That's just a terrible way to build a team. Either he's a good fit or not. He's had every chance in the world over the last 5 years. If he needs to show more after all that, then it's got to be a better approach to find a replacement that fits.

And the rebounding is an easy target. More important is his lack of defensive prowess, often with very little effort showing.
Agreed, we need some serious change around here, if Bargnani is just going to be an offensive threat then he needs to be the 6th man (if not traded for something of value to us).
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Old 04-14-2011, 10:46 PM   #64 (permalink)
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it's 21.4 - you can't legitimately round up from there
lol...... whatever doesnt change my point
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Old 04-14-2011, 10:56 PM   #65 (permalink)
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ya what about the defensively incompetent guard duo (calderon,derozen) that allow opposing guards to torch them night after night. fuckin eddie house gets 35 points last night, enough said. many other occasions like that throughout the year as well

also, people complain all the time but bargnani's help defense, ya thats fine, fair enough. but also got to look at the big picture. what about the guys that let the opponents drive by, forcing Bargnani into help defending time after time, and ya he doesnt do a good job at it i kno....but its funny i dont see any threads about derozen or caldys d or anybody else failures on the team...just use the best player on the team as a scapegoat time after time..

and lol at ur makes the team worse comment, do u ever stop to think the team's overall lack of talent and experience come into play....look at guys like kevin love, hes an allstar, but are the timberwolves good? fuck no (and no im not comparing Bargs to love, don't want any of the bashers to take quotes of mine out of context as what usually happens) ....point is u need more talent on your team to actually suceed. Bargs isn' the go-to-guy/difference maker... we all kno that, but he is valuable and certainly doesn't make the team any worse by being here, if ur going to throw stats at me, just look at our record without bargs, that aint so good either.

and quit undermining his 22 ppg, people on here act as if any fuckin guy who bounces a ball is capable to putting an offensive year like that, the fact is only a selective group of players are offensively gifted like that and we have one, so lets focus on complaining about the ACTUAL shit players rather than the ones with value that may have an aspect or two you hate...
Calderon sucks on defence but derozan is decent. Bargnani is a great offensive player but that isn't our weak point, its defence. And he just doesn't know what that means. But i do agree that we need to improve our defence alot and i hope our players work on that over the off season.
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Agreed, we need some serious change around here, if Bargnani is just going to be an offensive threat then he needs to be the 6th man (if not traded for something of value to us).
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or he'll man up and start averaging 7+ rbs and 1.5 blk to go with his 22+ ppg and then not only will he shut up most of his haters, but contribute moreover in a team sense.
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Next year is when all shall be revealed; either his minutes will start getting cut, and he'll gripe and demand a trade (which gives him an excuse to get him off our hands), or he'll man up and start averaging 7+ rbs and 1.5 blk to go with his 22+ ppg and then not only will he shut up most of his haters, but contribute moreover in a team sense.
i thought that going into this season, but i've given up on him sadly.
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Old 04-15-2011, 01:40 AM   #69 (permalink)
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Worrying. It appears as though BC and Triano are in conspiracy of not trading Bargnani this summer.
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Old 04-15-2011, 01:59 AM   #70 (permalink)
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From today's presser.

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um... where the hell is the link?
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:01 AM   #71 (permalink)
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Watched the interviews myself. Nowhere does Bargnani state that he wouldn't defend or rebound - thats Doug Smith wishful thinking.

But Triano is a joke. If he is here next season, its a clear sign of another tanking/youth development run. Can't win with him
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Old 04-15-2011, 02:13 AM   #72 (permalink)
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Watched the interviews myself. Nowhere does Bargnani state that he wouldn't defend or rebound - thats Doug Smith wishful thinking.
I think they removed it from the official video
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Old 04-15-2011, 04:43 AM   #73 (permalink)
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I hope in a trade. I want to see if Andrea can improve his game in a winning team.
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This summer he will be traded and all the fans will have a party. then will start the new season (lock out?) and all the fans will enjoy the bargless Raptors keep all the opponents to 80 points pg, as it happened when Bargs was out. Bytheway DD sucks as much as AB on defence (not talking about Calderon)
P.S. the real good thing will be no more thread about bargs
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I hope in a trade too. Raptor fans want defensive minded players, ok. Andrea will never be a anchor on D, even if he can play decent defense. So i hope he can go somewhere else, on a team that has a defensive center (since the Raptors are apparently non able to acquire one) to show what he can do.
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Old 04-15-2011, 05:18 AM   #76 (permalink)
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Bargnani IS an anchor on defense. An anchor sets there at the bottom of the sea, and basically doesn't move. Bargnani on defense sits in one spot and barely moves.
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Old 04-15-2011, 06:12 AM   #77 (permalink)
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Threats after the season from Triano are pretty sad ... where was the open discussion during the season.
Next season .. next season ... typical statement from an underperforming employee
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Old 04-15-2011, 07:10 AM   #78 (permalink)
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um... where the hell is the link?
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Old 04-15-2011, 09:17 AM   #79 (permalink)
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While I thought Bargnani sounded very bitter and defensive and was very curt in his answers, I watched the video twice and did not hear this comment.
I thought I heard Bargnani say it during the new conference:

"I do things that are much more complicated than rebounds and defence.

Maybe the Raptors purposely cut the video link short, but reading the papers this morning confirms the quote. From the man who said last year he wants to be face of the franchise. Great quote from the leader of the franchise.

Bargnani not the answer in the middle | Basketball | Sports | Toronto Sun
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and quit undermining his 22 ppg, people on here act as if any fuckin guy who bounces a ball is capable to putting an offensive year like that, the fact is only a selective group of players are offensively gifted like that and we have one, so lets focus on complaining about the ACTUAL shit players rather than the ones with value that may have an aspect or two you hate...
ur way overvaluing his 22ppg and your wrong
consistancy and effort is also a gift, and unfortunately for us he wasn't blessed with those
yes theres only a number of players that average 20+ ppg in a year, BUT thats not how many people who CAN (ie Bosh this year averaging below 20ppg)
its the nba....everyone is gifted to some degree. minus the defensive specialists, everyone can score basically. it just depends on everyones situation, which is different
bargs is the go to guy on offense on a bad team and has a lot of shot attempts (more than Bosh has ever had in his entire career so far, and likely ever)
so i can point out he is ONLY averaging 22ppg, and thats with rounding up
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