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Old 02-15-2012, 11:42 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Are you high? As much as i'd hate to part with Bargs right now, i'd drive them to the airport.
parker will drop off, dragic, imo doesn't have what it takes to start on a good team, let alone a great one, and bonner, well, it's bonner. The only great piece we get there is Batum who imo, is either less talented than bargs, or equally. So virtually, you're giving jose up for parker, dragic, and bonner, which i wouldn't do, unless there was a pick there somewhere.
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Old 02-15-2012, 11:44 PM   #42 (permalink)
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parker will drop off, dragic, imo doesn't have what it takes to start on a good team, let alone a great one, and bonner, well, it's bonner. The only great piece we get there is Batum who imo, is either less talented than bargs, or equally. So virtually, you're giving jose up for parker, dragic, and bonner, which i wouldn't do, unless there was a pick there somewhere.
i'd do jose straight up for parker, the other two are a bonus.
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Old 02-16-2012, 02:36 AM   #43 (permalink)
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i'd do jose straight up for parker, the other two are a bonus.
So would probably every GM in the league, if they were trading away Jose and receiving Parker. The only reason they wouldn't is due to salary considerations, I suspect. Different teams have different needs and plans.

-Parker is an NBA Finals MVP and he's on the All-Star team this year.

-He qualifies as both intelligent and highly experienced.

-He comes from a winning system

-He's locked up for a few years, so he can't bolt on us

-His game is, arguably, more suited for Casey's system, since Parker is comfortable running or in the halfcourt.

It is true that he might drop off, but, if he stops playing in international competitions, you might also get 3 good years out of him.


The funny thing is, earlier in the year, right after Ginobili got hurt, I remember some analysts and bloggers...etc... speculating that the Spurs might be looking to blow things up, because they likely didn't have enough to make a run. If they had chosen to do that, Parker would have been at the top of the list because of his longterm salary. Now, though, the Spurs are playing so well that they likely won't consider moving Parker until the summer of 2013, if Duncan can stay healthy.

A month ago I would have been able to believe Jose + prospect and/or pick could get us Parker, but now we probably have no chance in hell of getting him (in the near future).

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Old 02-16-2012, 03:19 AM   #44 (permalink)
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No way would Parker for Calderon happen straight up. It would have to be Calderon, First Round Pick, and Kleiza and it probably still wouldn't work.
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Old 02-16-2012, 03:35 AM   #45 (permalink)
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No way would Parker for Calderon happen straight up. It would have to be Calderon, First Round Pick, and Kleiza and it probably still wouldn't work.
Or a prospect and financial relief. If Duncan went down with an injury, and the Spurs decided to blow things up, they would almost certainly want to rid themselves of Richard Jefferson's bloated contract.
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Old 02-16-2012, 06:17 AM   #46 (permalink)
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jose has been one of the best pgs this year, he has no pure shooters on the court and still he manages close to 9 assists a game without bargnani

not to mention how clutch he has been

if we forget about performance in previous years we all would be happy about what he is doing this year

personally i think tradign jose would be a huge mistake, i think we should first try to fix the 3 position first then deal with sg if demar doesn't come through, then we handle pg

if you surround jose with better shooters he could average 10 assists game easily

basically lead the league in assists don't know how you trade a guy like that
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Old 02-16-2012, 09:04 AM   #47 (permalink)
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i think we should keep him sj. i can't believe you're going to dismiss all the good things he does and just blame him for all of our woes. he gets the drinks at halftime, man.
I thought we already established that you have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to this position trane...get back in the paint where you belong big fella!
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:00 AM   #48 (permalink)
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I thought we already established that you have no clue what you're talking about when it comes to this position trane...get back in the paint where you belong big fella!
i'm always happy to take a position opposite to that of the biggest clowns.
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:01 AM   #49 (permalink)
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You would never have guarded me.

I'd have guarded you though.
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:03 AM   #50 (permalink)
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no one would have guarded you. why bother? i'd help covering someone who could actually score.
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:09 AM   #51 (permalink)
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KAPOW... not far off actually....hahaha
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:24 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Jose Calderon is going no where. Why would trade your best player right now. We are set at the PG spot for the next 3 years. We will get another young point guard in the draft. PG position is the least of our problems. You trade Jose and shit other then Bargs we willl be in deep shit.
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Old 02-16-2012, 10:56 AM   #53 (permalink)
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I not am sure about trying to trade Calderon. Bayless and Bargnani can't get on the court, Barbosa turning the ball over and shooting erratic shots as much as Derozan, and a front court with no post-up game; trading Calderon without getting a good PG in return would be disastrous. I really don't want to see Anthony Carter, Derozan, or James Johnson initiating the offense. Trade him only if the right pieces come back.
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:07 AM   #54 (permalink)
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Not the same as the other trade jose threads. Those ones are because people said he sucked.

He's be excellent. Trade him. Trade him for youth/picks/expiring. You just have to look at this years UFAs. The only depth in the class is a PG. There's lots to replace ihm with in the summer and lots of teams with current need.

And none of this 4 team, 10 player shit. It just should be Jose and salary to equalize it and not a load of players, since PG is the only position we can really upgrade in the summer.
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:26 AM   #55 (permalink)
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Why are we having another one of these? Seriously, SJ, why?
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:27 AM   #56 (permalink)
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I have no idea what you mean?
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:28 AM   #57 (permalink)
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And for anyone who thinks that Parker is our PG of the future.... or that we can obtain him for Jose without throwing in a lottery pick... I want in on your drug plan.
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:31 AM   #58 (permalink)
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I have no idea what you mean?
Dude... Even I am growing tired of repeating the same tired shit over and over again, surprising as this might be. Those capable of understanding have already understood. Those in the other camp will stay there no matter what happens. If I read another one of those "deal Jose now because his value is high and we'll get our PG of the future by divine intervention a la Lin" posts, I am going to puke all over the keyboard...
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Old 02-16-2012, 11:35 AM   #59 (permalink)
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I have no idea what you mean...I am innocent.

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Old 02-16-2012, 11:56 AM   #60 (permalink)
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how about trading barbosa, who is an expiring. much more valuable than jose
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