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Old 03-07-2013, 12:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Looking at telfair last night, i was thinking that this team is so full with underachievers, if you look at the talent and physical abilities of a bargnani, gay, demar or telfair -they all have multiple all star, maybe even hall of famers potential, and none have come even close to reaching their potential.

Makes for a nice day dream of "what if", say a miracle happens and next year they all reach their potential, we'd be a title contender overnight
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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atlease he is playing to his potential!
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Old 03-07-2013, 12:57 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Looking at telfair last night, i was thinking that this team is so full with underachievers, if you look at the talent and physical abilities of a bargnani, gay, demar or telfair -they all have multiple all star, maybe even hall of famers potential, and none have come even close to reaching their potential.

Makes for a nice day dream of "what if", say a miracle happens and next year they all reach their potential, we'd be a title contender overnight
the only ones there with true multiple all star potential in talent and ability would be Bargnani and gay. demar's not naturally talented enough. telfair has the potential to be a great starter, but not an all star. none of them have potential to be a hall of famer.

how about the fact that we have a potential all star in lowry who can bea potential all star if the coach let's him be "lowry"? that's the saddest part imo
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Old 03-07-2013, 02:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I guess it depends on how you define talent.

The mental part of the game is also a talent, and to have a hall of fame career you really need that (unless you happen to be a once or twice in a generation physical freak, which none of our players are).

None of our players really excel at the mental part of the game at this point.

Taking high percentage shots, making low risk high reward passes, being able to anticipate the play on offense and defense, awareness of game situations, awareness of who's playing well and who should get the ball on offense (and who to guard on defense, and how), being able to predict how the ball will come off the rim, where the refs are positioned and what they will and won't call are all important parts of the game for everyone on the court, no matter how big or athletic they are (except Shaq, because he was a monster).

Players are born with mental aptitude, just like they're born with size, it's just less obvious.

No doubt experience helps, so maybe some of our players are just late bloomers. But, for most of them it's just not going to happen.

I find it interesting that fans will blame a point guard for not being able to rack up assists like Nash, Rondo or Paul, but I wonder how many of those fans have ever had someone blame them for not being a Rhodes Scholar, for example. Not everyone can be a genius, and the guys putting up big assist numbers in the best league in the world are definitely geniuses.

I see a lot of guys on the roster that have been in less than ideal situations, and who have experienced set backs due to injury, so that plays a part in unrealized potential, and I don't get the feeling that anyone on the team really doesn't work hard at their game (even Bargs).
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Old 03-07-2013, 02:14 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Anybody still remember the movie in 05 that film Telfair and his decision? When that came out, the hype was there and I thought he would be big time. haha.



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Since the age of nine, Sebastian Telfair has been a well known player on the basketball courts in his hometown of Brooklyn. Now entering his senior year of high school, Sebastian is determined to get his team, the Lincoln Railsplitters, to their third straight PSAL championship title. He is also faced with the decision to either attend The University of Louisville or make the jump from high school to the NBA in order to provide for his family and get them out of the projects of New York City. Telfair's environment also plays a big part in his life. He deals with a death and having the entire neighborhood depending on him to be next in the line of great New York point guards.


Good movie if you like to see what HS basketball star goes through.
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Old 03-07-2013, 03:29 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I read a great article years ago about Marbury in high school on Coney Island. It's a pretty messed up culture. And it couldn't have helped any kid.
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