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Old 02-15-2013, 07:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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@Jon_Roser: TA on Rudy Gay saying Demar Derozan is the best SG he's played with: "What's his resume? What does his resume hold for him to say that? Has he ever played in the playoffs?"
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@Jon_Roser: TA on Rudy saying Derozan is best SG he's played with: "I guess that's what the league is now. Highlight dunks & alot of points...and lose"
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Old 02-15-2013, 07:18 PM   #2 (permalink)
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IMO dd is about equal to tony Allen, ta is way better on d and dd is better in offense

Why does Tony even care.
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Old 02-15-2013, 07:21 PM   #3 (permalink)
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IMO dd is about equal to tony Allen, ta is way better on d and dd is better in offense

Why does Tony even care.
I'd be a little offended, but i wouldn't make that big a deal about it.
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:10 PM   #4 (permalink)
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drama, rudy shouldnt of said it, even though it might be true, tony is a unique player.
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:15 PM   #5 (permalink)
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IMO dd is about equal to tony Allen, ta is way better on d and dd is better in offense

Why does Tony even care.
That's the thing.


DD is WAY better on offence, while Allen is WAY better on defence.

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Old 02-15-2013, 08:25 PM   #6 (permalink)
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IMO dd is about equal to tony Allen, ta is way better on d and dd is better in offense
that makes it totally clear. dd is the best gay's ever seen, because gay only sees offense...
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:41 PM   #7 (permalink)
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that makes it totally clear. dd is the best gay's ever seen, because gay only sees offense...
Haha! I've always thought rudy was a decent defender...
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Old 02-15-2013, 08:58 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Rudys a GOOD defender.
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:04 PM   #9 (permalink)
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so allen is far superior on D, sure we love D and all but demar does just about everything else in the game better
when it comes down to it, 1 guy can't shut down anybody on D themselves, but 1 guy can win a game offensively by himself, face it, offense in the end is still slightly more valuable than D, and offense doesn't just include the scoring points yourself part

besides, tony allen shouldn't be pissed off at rudy because of demar, if you asked rudy in greater depth he'd probably say even OJ Mayo is ahead of allen in his list of SGs he's played with
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:06 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Well, I don't think Tony made his point the best way. The fact that Toronto didn't make the playoffs is not enough to say Tony is better than Demar. If Tony played for the Raptors the past 3 seasons, he wouldn't have been the difference maker that got the Raps in. On the other hand, if Demar played with Zach Randolph and Marc Gasol, Demar would have a "resume".
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Well, I don't think Tony made his point the best way. The fact that Toronto didn't make the playoffs is not enough to say Tony is better than Demar. If Tony played for the Raptors the past 3 seasons, he wouldn't have been the difference maker that got the Raps in. On the other hand, if Demar played with Zach Randolph and Marc Gasol, Demar would have a "resume".
this is also lebron's rebuttal to jordan.
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:21 PM   #12 (permalink)
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this is also lebron's rebuttal to jordan.
which is a fair one. now that he has a proper supporting cast we can see what he can do really, and it's absurd what he's doing, and he's doing it while winning, not just stat filling. it's brilliant
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Old 02-15-2013, 09:26 PM   #13 (permalink)
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lebron took a team to the playoffs soley himself, after he left they were what, last in the league? cleveland speaking
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The fact he's so butthurt shows he knows Rudy's right. I mean let's face it, the Grizzlies didn't win dick bcause of Tony friggin Allen. They had Gasol, Randolph, Gay and Conley who were an awesome starting lineup. Tony Allen is a friggin afterthought.
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Tony Allen was a big part of that team starting to win enough to make the playoffs. He was the final piece that made everything work.
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The fact he's so butthurt shows he knows Rudy's right. I mean let's face it, the Grizzlies didn't win dick bcause of Tony friggin Allen. They had Gasol, Randolph, Gay and Conley who were an awesome starting lineup. Tony Allen is a friggin afterthought.
exactly, switch tony allen with demar on the grizzlies and tony allen is winning nothing on the raptors, in fact the Raptors would have been even worse that least few seasons
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@Jon_Roser: TA on Rudy Gay saying Demar Derozan is the best SG he's played with: "What's his resume? What does his resume hold for him to say that? Has he ever played in the playoffs?"

So then making it into the playoffs is what its about? I guess derek fisher is better than you because he went to the playoffs as a starting PG many times and won multiple championship, oh yeah, he just stood there and let kobe and shaq do their thing

@Jon_Roser: TA on Rudy saying Derozan is best SG he's played with: "I guess that's what the league is now. Highlight dunks & alot of points...and lose"

so Tony Allen on the Raptors instead of Demar Derozan
No highlight dunks, no scoring and losing games even worse!
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Old 02-15-2013, 10:36 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Well you can always improve on D, its really about confidence and motivation.

But if you don't have natural offensive skills, you can only go so far..
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Old 02-15-2013, 11:23 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Rudys a GOOD defender.
I keep hearing that but I would love to see it. Good defenders don't pick and choose what time they're going to be good defenders.

His length bothers people - but I would call him average.
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I keep hearing that but I would love to see it. Good defenders don't pick and choose what time they're going to be good defenders.

His length bothers people - but I would call him average.
hes still adjusting, gotta watch some of his games in houston broskis
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