Today in Raptorland - 12/3/08
Old 12-03-2008, 09:08 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Nuggets demolish Raptors

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"We have to get our heads out of our butts and go play," said the coach.
Calderon draws raves from Karl

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"He's a true point. He cares about the point and in the last few years, we talk about Chris Paul and we talk about Deron Williams – and they deserve to be talked about – but this kid's not very far behind," Karl said.

Then he invoked the name of future hall of famer and former Utah Jazz guard John Stockton.

"I think Calderon is Stockton-like," said Karl. "Eighty per cent of his team's decisions are made by his pass or his decision.


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“As professionals, we have to be ashamed of ourselves. It was embarrassing not only for us, but for a lot of people that support the Raptors, the city and the country,” O’Neal said.

“Tonight we have to go back to the hotel and address it as a team, how we can’t seem to get over the hump.”
O'Neal returns

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O'Neal had tried to rush a comeback from a strained left knee suffered against New jersey on Nov. 21 and hurt his ankle in the process. He said the aborted attempt to play against Boston on Nov. 23 was "a wake-up call" to himself.

"I'm not 21 anymore," the 30-year-old O'Neal laughed. "You try to be a little bit smarter as you get older. You want to make the best decisions to help the team and not make an emotional one."


Raptors fall to Nuggets

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Part of that had to do with Calderon's ineffectiveness. Calderon has lacked his usual quickness since injuring his hamstring last month, and the matchup with Billups exposed that. On offence, with the bigger Dahntay Jones guarding him, Calderon had a tough time getting the Raptors into their offence.

And on defence, like almost all of the rest of his teammates, he was Brutal. Billups rung up 21 first-half points, hitting a series of pull-up three pointers, and mixing in a few aggressive driving lay-ups for variety.


Billups' double-double a big assist to Nuggets

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The Nuggets' November win at Boston was arguably their biggest, but Tuesday's win was their most emphatic. They annihilated a playoff team that didn't have any injured rotation players. The Raptors (8-9) trotted out Chris Bosh (third in the NBA in points), Jose Calderon (second in assists) and Jermaine O'Neal (back Tuesday from an ankle injury), and by the third quarter, when Bosh hit a jumper, a press-row reporter deadpanned, "They cut it to 30."
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:14 AM   #2 (permalink)
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whats up with Calderon's quickness. Hammy problem? I thought those things go away after two weeks
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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whats up with Calderon's quickness. Hammy problem? I thought those things go away after two weeks
Probably WOULD have gone away if he rested properly. Instead, he was back in the game without healing time.
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:29 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Yea that's exactly why. There was no point in him coming back that fast. I think he should've rested a little more like T-MAc. Look at T0Mac this guy is taking 3 weeks of rehab LOL
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Yea that's exactly why. There was no point in him coming back that fast. I think he should've rested a little more like T-MAc. Look at T0Mac this guy is taking 3 weeks of rehab LOL
That's smart.

It's no wonder the Raps suck more than usual right now. We've got injured players who haven't had time off. Ridiculous.
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:33 AM   #6 (permalink)
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He's got spanish hamstring syndrome.

Fernando Torres has had the same thing all season long.

the condition starts when you get injured playing for the Spanish National team of your respective sport. Then it all goes down hill and the result is fancylad's favorite sports teams end up getting screwed.





but seriously, Calderon looks 10 years older the way he is playing right now. It sucks cause he's not "injured enough" to sit, but he clearly ain't getting any better as he plays
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Old 12-03-2008, 09:38 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I said it when it happened, that wa sa three week injury, hammy's always are.

Desperation is a bad thing.
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:21 AM   #8 (permalink)
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He's got spanish hamstring syndrome.

Fernando Torres has had the same thing all season long.

the condition starts when you get injured playing for the Spanish National team of your respective sport. Then it all goes down hill and the result is fancylad's favorite sports teams end up getting screwed.





but seriously, Calderon looks 10 years older the way he is playing right now. It sucks cause he's not "injured enough" to sit, but he clearly ain't getting any better as he plays

LOL

On a sidenote, Liverpool fans should not be complaining.
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Old 12-03-2008, 10:21 AM   #9 (permalink)
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So a smart coach realizes that two big cogs to your machine are hurting... you sit them and let your inexperienced players get some time out against teams at a different level to gain that experience and maybe learn a few things. It'd be a stretch to win these games anyways so limit the time your hurt guys have to play. Sam never seems to see the big picture. He needs to say "no" sometimes when these guys try to play.

Maybe it's not sam's decision, but someones gotta stand up
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Old 12-03-2008, 04:20 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Jose looked as weak over long stretches last season. Was he hurting then also?

He has never never never been able to handle much defensive pressure. It would be true that he is Stockton like if he could toughen up, but he would have to toughen up 1000 percent. It's too bad.
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