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10gizzle 11-20-2012 03:02 AM

Time to get Josh Smith...
 
Writings on the wall in ATL.

This could be exactly what the Raptors need at this point.

I'd be willing to deal for this guy. Expiring deal and it seems like a foregone conclusion that he'll leave in free agency. Maybe BC finally swallows his pride and packages something like Bargnani and Ed or something and makes it happen.

Smith would be a great fit playing the four and if he pans out this year...give him the money.

Thoughts?

Kirby 11-20-2012 03:05 AM

and how do you propose we get this.. "Josh Smith"...?

LET'S GO RAPTORS!!!!! 11-20-2012 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 10gizzle (Post 706029)
Writings on the wall in ATL.

This could be exactly what the Raptors need at this point.

I'd be willing to deal for this guy. Expiring deal and it seems like a foregone conclusion that he'll leave in free agency. Maybe BC finally swallows his pride and packages something like Bargnani and Ed or something and makes it happen.
Smith would be a great fit playing the four and if he pans out this year...give him the money.

Thoughts?

Knowing BC he'd probably want to pair JSmoove with Bargs :sigh:

MBailey85 11-20-2012 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 10gizzle (Post 706029)
Writings on the wall in ATL.

This could be exactly what the Raptors need at this point.

I'd be willing to deal for this guy. Expiring deal and it seems like a foregone conclusion that he'll leave in free agency. Maybe BC finally swallows his pride and packages something like Bargnani and Ed or something and makes it happen.

Smith would be a great fit playing the four and if he pans out this year...give him the money.

Thoughts?

I think realistically, Gallinari is a better fit for this team and a bit easier to acquire at the 3. Colangelo's former assistant GM is Denver's current GM(Masai Ujiri) and I'd suspect they still have a good relationship. Also with Smith, you have to worry about resigning him or letting him walk for nothing,after giving up one of your best assets in Bargnani. With the emergence of Kenneth Faried at the 3,Bargs can play the 4 in Denver,which is what they need. Bargs plays like a 3 in TO but starts at PF so Gallinari is a natural fit,seeing he can spread the floor with his shooting abilities,which compliments DD ability to get to the hoop at the SG. J. Smith is a type of player Casey would like,my only worry would him turning into a chucker to pad his stats in hopes of a large contract for the off season

Bill Haverchuck 11-20-2012 04:02 AM

Josh Smith at the 4 instead of Bargnani would certainly make us a much better defensive team.

I don't think Atlanta wants anything we'd have to offer, though. Bargnani? No. I think they get a better offer somewhere else, before ever getting that desperate. If J-Smooth is traded, Atlanta is either going full rebuild mode (expiring and picks), or looking to replace him with an all-star calibre player so that they can still have a chance at the playoffs. I don't think the Raps can help them with either plan.

Just my impression/opinion.

Dario 11-20-2012 04:19 AM

yeah we don't have enough for him..

Metallikid 11-20-2012 05:36 AM

Won't happen, stop dreaming, we don't have enough and he'd leave in free agency because I believe he can sign a bigger deal. You get him this offseason for the max if you can and that's about our best hope.

Bill Haverchuck 11-20-2012 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by @BaileysBlitz (Post 706033)
I think realistically, Gallinari is a better fit for this team and a bit easier to acquire at the 3. Colangelo's former assistant GM is Denver's current GM(Masai Ujiri) and I'd suspect they still have a good relationship. Also with Smith, you have to worry about resigning him or letting him walk for nothing,after giving up one of your best assets in Bargnani. With the emergence of Kenneth Faried at the 3,Bargs can play the 4 in Denver,which is what they need. Bargs plays like a 3 in TO but starts at PF so Gallinari is a natural fit,seeing he can spread the floor with his shooting abilities,which compliments DD ability to get to the hoop at the SG. J. Smith is a type of player Casey would like,my only worry would him turning into a chucker to pad his stats in hopes of a large contract for the off season

Kenneth Faried is not a 3. He is a PF. He was guarding Zach Randolph on the block last night. I don't think I've seen him guard a real SF for more than a few possessions. Gallinari is the SF in Denver's current starting lineup. Gallo only plays PF when they go small-ball.

The point is, I doubt Denver has any use for a starting front court of Faried, Bargs, and Koufos (or McGee). Who is going to guard the opposing SF on the bulk of possessions?

MBailey85 11-20-2012 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill Haverchuck (Post 706037)
Kenneth Faried is not a 3. He is a PF. He was guarding Zach Randolph on the block last night. I don't think I've seen him guard a real SF for more than a few possessions. Gallinari is the SF in Denver's current starting lineup. Gallo only plays PF when they go small-ball.

The point is, I doubt Denver has any use for a starting front court of Faried, Bargs, and Koufos (or McGee). Who is going to guard the opposing SF on the bulk of possessions?

I completely understand what you're saying and you have valid points. At the same time Denver has a lot of depth at the 2 and 3 spots and not as much at the 4 and 5. I believe Farried is quick enough to guard an opposing 3 in the West,except for Durant & Gay. Who knows,maybe Bargnani goes to another team in a 3 team trade.

jeffb 11-20-2012 08:31 AM

Unless we get a 3rd team involved forget it. Apparently the Lakers are willing to offer anything outside of Howard/Kobe/Nash. ATL can likely get 3-4 better offers for Smith. And isn't he a FA next summer? And it still doesn't solve that massive hole at SF.

Lowry
Ross??
Derozan
Smith
Valanciunas

SoGood 11-20-2012 09:54 AM

Josh Smith has all tools in the world. However, I'd be a bit hesitant on him... Dude loves to jack up outside shots on offense. Love what he provides on defense, but I'd probably pulling my hair out watching him on offense. It's pretty much a wash if you flip him for bargs and filler. you get better defensively but worse offensively.

Don Vito 11-20-2012 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by SoGood (Post 706063)
Josh Smith has all tools in the world. However, I'd be a bit hesitant on him... Dude loves to jack up outside shots on offense. Love what he provides on defense, but I'd probably pulling my hair out watching him on offense. It's pretty much a wash if you flip him for bargs and filler. you get better defensively but worse offensively.

Bargnani hurts the offense right now more than anyone, I doubt smith would be jacking up lots of shots anyway.

Smith can play the small forward spot, there isn't a need for him to be PF... Amir or Davis can start

carp 11-20-2012 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Vito (Post 706068)
Bargnani hurts the offense right now more than anyone, I doubt smith would be jacking up lots of shots anyway.

Smith can play the small forward spot, there isn't a need for him to be PF... Amir or Davis can start

Smith xan't play the three anymore... and he absolutely does jack up shots. Still, he's no doubt better than AB and defensively he could be awesome next to the right player. I'm not sure he'd ever re-sign here though....

Don Vito 11-20-2012 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by carp (Post 706070)
Smith xan't play the three anymore... and he absolutely does jack up shots. Still, he's no doubt better than AB and defensively he could be awesome next to the right player. I'm not sure he'd ever re-sign here though....

He plays the three right now, so he obviously can. Also the offense won't be flowing through smith, he won't have an opportunity to jack up shots.

carp 11-20-2012 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Vito (Post 706078)
He plays the three right now, so he obviously can. Also the offense won't be flowing through smith, he won't have an opportunity to jack up shots.

You're right, he can play it... I thought he'd gotten too fat. But he'd still jack shots, he does it when he wants to there.

Zalgiris 11-20-2012 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Don Vito (Post 706078)
He plays the three right now, so he obviously can. Also the offense won't be flowing through smith, he won't have an opportunity to jack up shots.

He'd be best player in our team, how could we not give him the offensive freedom?

LET'S GO RAPTORS!!!!! 11-20-2012 11:15 AM

He is more of a PF and starts at PF.

Also, I think ATL would want something like Ross and Bargs for him.

Thug 11-20-2012 11:19 AM

Id be willing to package Bargnani/Ed/Ross/2nd Rounder.

That offer should at least marinate with ATL as a pretty good one.

LET'S GO RAPTORS!!!!! 11-20-2012 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Thug (Post 706087)
Id be willing to package Bargnani/Ed/Ross/2nd Rounder.

That offer should at least marinate with ATL as a pretty good one.

I think they'd take that and run. I'd do everything to keep Ross though.

LKeet6 11-20-2012 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thug (Post 706087)
Id be willing to package Bargnani/Ed/Ross/2nd Rounder.

That offer should at least marinate with ATL as a pretty good one.

wow, really don't like that deal.


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