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Old 02-07-2014, 03:47 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 02-07-2014, 03:56 PM   #22 (permalink)
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-Fine refs for being this wrong when games are on the line in the final 2min
-Give each coach the power to challenge ONE call in the final 2min of every game
-Cancel all betting on the NBA across the board (obviously not going to happen)
This is such an easy fix. I don't why it hasn't been implemented.
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Old 02-07-2014, 04:21 PM   #23 (permalink)
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The challenge really would be great... at least for showing how rigged the NBA actually is, because, I'd love to see the jump in egregious fouls the year it's implemented and as a general trend going forward as refs have to try even harder to skew it one way or another.
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Old 02-07-2014, 04:28 PM   #24 (permalink)
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The challenge wouldn't work. This isn't football where you the ball comes out before the knee touches. Foul calls are highly subjective. The Lowry three pointer is a perfect example, challenging that call would do nothing. There is no evidence one way or another.

Their is so much attempted manipulation during the course of the basketball game by every player and coach - that's what really need to stops. It's not a separate set of rules for different players, it's different players and coaches are just far superior at currying favour from officials.

For the most part - the officials get the job done. The better team more often then not wins the game.
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Old 02-07-2014, 04:30 PM   #25 (permalink)
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The challenge wouldn't work. This isn't football where you the ball comes out before the knee touches. Foul calls are highly subjective. The Lowry three pointer is a perfect example, challenging that call would do nothing. There is no evidence one way or another.
the three refs watch the replay and decide together. if it's inconclusive the call stands. it's not that difficult.
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Old 02-07-2014, 04:34 PM   #26 (permalink)
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the three refs watch the replay and decide together. if it's inconclusive the call stands. it's not that difficult.
They already saw the play - the video will be inconclusive. The pace of the games is already approaching ridiculous levels as it is replay, having officials watch video of a subjective decision that they already made would achieve nothing.
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I have a hard time believing the refs would try to fix a game when the commissioner was in attendance ...
Have you ever read Declan Hill's book? While it's on soccer, he goes into some detail how a World Cup game was fixed.

It wouldn't surprise me if NBA games were fixed on some level. There's a lot of peculiar instances in games and while the outcomes are typically correct, over/under's and point spreads are impacted greatly.
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Old 02-07-2014, 04:39 PM   #28 (permalink)
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They already saw the play - the video will be inconclusive. The pace of the games is already approaching ridiculous levels as it is replay, having officials watch video of a subjective decision that they already made would achieve nothing.
Do you watch the NBA? They already watch replays and over turn calls now..........all the time. I swear you've fallen on your head recently.
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Old 02-07-2014, 06:25 PM   #29 (permalink)
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If the ref is crooked, he was smart enough to pick the team that the NBA cares the least about. Any apology yet?
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Old 02-07-2014, 06:26 PM   #30 (permalink)
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If the ref is crooked, he was smart enough to pick the team that the NBA cares the least about. Any apology yet?
The least? That's highly debatable

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Old 02-07-2014, 06:29 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Have you ever read Declan Hill's book? While it's on soccer, he goes into some detail how a World Cup game was fixed.

It wouldn't surprise me if NBA games were fixed on some level. There's a lot of peculiar instances in games and while the outcomes are typically correct, over/under's and point spreads are impacted greatly.
no, a while ago when I was listening a lot on fan590, there were some interesting discussion on soccer match fixing.

thing is, in soccer is very easy to fix a game, because it often requires just one or two "mistakes", in bball is more challenging.

and it's not quite the same situation anyway, because a world cup game probably attracts much higher bets, so it may be worth taking a chance. In the nba, sac-tor or uta-cha are no different, and the commish probably watches 10-20 regular season games a year, what incentive a ref would have to fix one of those few games vs any other?
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If the ref is crooked, he was smart enough to pick the team that the NBA cares the least about. Any apology yet?
pretty sure we have one of most active fanbase
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There were a ton of points at the line for both teams. Especially in order to get the game to overtime. They wanted the over to win more than anything. The impact by the refs was just so noticeable.
Are you referring to the game where Bargs had a 4 point play to tie the game, and Ray Allen hit a bunch of clutch shots as well? If so, I was there too, and despite the refs sucking, that game was awesome.

Also, anyone who thinks the NBA and WWE are similar is out to lunch.
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Old 02-07-2014, 06:51 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Also, anyone who thinks the NBA and WWE are similar is out to lunch.
you took that seriously?
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you took that seriously?
The first poster who said it was serious. The poster afterwards who quoted him, who knows, as I don't have a sarcasm detector like you do.
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The first poster who said it was serious. The poster afterwards who quoted him, who knows, as I don't have a sarcasm detector like you do.
can't see how anyone could take that type of comment too seriously. WWE is a bunch of juiceheads pretending to fight. lol
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Old 02-07-2014, 07:09 PM   #37 (permalink)
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It's been a common topic among many NBA fans when calls are made against their teams, and it's probably one of the most debated topics in NBA forums overall since the inception of NBA message boards(if you were to expand the notion from the NBA and WWE both being scripted to the NBA being rigged by officials either betting on games, or being told to rig games by the Commissioner, depending on which idiot is arguing). Which is why I took the original post about is seriously, because it's been argued ad nauseam in the past.
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Old 02-07-2014, 07:20 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I have a hard time believing the refs would try to fix a game when the commissioner was in attendance ...
Yes because when all the money goes on the game they already know he's going to be there.

And the last time I saw a replay on the big screen of a call that bad at a live game was never.

Edit; the title of the thread proves its not hard to fix a BBall game.

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Old 02-07-2014, 08:58 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Do you watch the NBA? They already watch replays and over turn calls now..........all the time. I swear you've fallen on your head recently.
There's a big difference between a foot being on the line or a ball being over the cylinder, or a hand touching a ball, versus a subjective foul call when their is contact on 100% of all basketball plays during a game. Do they have review for pass interference in football? No. Holding? No. It doesn't work Jeff. Because the day they do that, the game becomes a joke. You don't want this game called through black/white interpretations of the rule book - trust me on this one.
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Are you referring to the game where Bargs had a 4 point play to tie the game, and Ray Allen hit a bunch of clutch shots as well? If so, I was there too, and despite the refs sucking, that game was awesome.

Also, anyone who thinks the NBA and WWE are similar is out to lunch.
Yeah - it had excitement. But it felt shady. All the excitement came about due to a ton of early calls in the fourth, and both teams in the penalty and in foul trouble. No defense happened after that. I wasn't shocked when that game was referenced in the Donaghy scandal.
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