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Acie 11-16-2011 07:54 PM

Thorpe Thinks Barnes' Best Fit Would Be With Raptors
 
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Harrison Barnes, F, North Carolina Tar Heels
Best NBA fit: Toronto Raptors

Imagine the impact Barnes could have in Toronto, probably the worst defensive team last season. Not only would he immediately upgrade the Raps on that side of the ball, but his perimeter shooting partners well with their shooting guard, DeMar DeRozan, who can slash but does not shoot well from the perimeter.


Best NBA fits for Anthony Davis, Harrison Barnes, Andre Drummond, other top prospects - ESPN

jeffb 11-16-2011 08:11 PM

I would have to agree. We don't need a big and our two biggest needs are at SF/PG. And he can play D, which should be the most important aspect of his game.

ValanciunasFanboy 11-16-2011 08:15 PM

What's on the list for Sota, Clippers and Kings? They all sort of have the exact same need.

Blaze 11-16-2011 10:58 PM

I would love barnes here, him and qmiller are my first two choices but I don't understand what they mean by he would pair with Demar well. Demar can't shoot can only slash (for now hopefully), barnes can't shoot can only slash, seems like a bad combination to me. It would make sense one of them was a shooter cause they can offset each others weaknesses but yeah i don't see how they compliment each other well if they play the same style, only in the entire framework of the team. (Young, athletic and can run up and down the court)

DanH 11-17-2011 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaze (Post 579800)
I would love barnes here, him and qmiller are my first two choices but I don't understand what they mean by he would pair with Demar well. Demar can't shoot can only slash (for now hopefully), barnes can't shoot can only slash, seems like a bad combination to me. It would make sense one of them was a shooter cause they can offset each others weaknesses but yeah i don't see how they compliment each other well if they play the same style, only in the entire framework of the team. (Young, athletic and can run up and down the court)

Thorpe seems to be saying that Barnes has a strong perimeter shooting game.

Someguy again 11-17-2011 10:18 AM

he's a very good defender, very flat footed and rarely bites on pumpfakes, plus he has the size to hold down against post-up forwards. despite his mediocre ball handling skills, the dude can run the break and finish in a strong fashion. besides that reverse lay-up he did during the tournament was some nasty stuff.

halphbreedballer 11-17-2011 01:35 PM

I think Drummonds stock is going to fall, he's done absolutely nothing so far through his 1st 2 games. He's averaging 4points & 4.5rebounds 2blks on 33% shooting...

LKeet6 11-17-2011 03:09 PM

yeah, love the look of barnes, haven't read much about quincy miller, someone fill me in.

also, anyone know the story on perry jones? he looked real good a while ago, haven't read anything about him.

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN 11-17-2011 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LKeet6 (Post 579896)
yeah, love the look of barnes, haven't read much about quincy miller, someone fill me in.

also, anyone know the story on perry jones? he looked real good a while ago, haven't read anything about him.

Perry Jones is suspended right now Baylor from accepting money. I think he is suspended the first four games this year after missing the last two last year. Once he gets back he will be a top prospect. He was the preseason pick for POY in the Big 12.

Quincy Miller is a true freshman at Baylor also and is a SF. 6-9, projected top 10 pick in the next NBA draft. Averaging 18PPG in 3 games at Baylor in 24MPG shooting 51%, 6-9 from 3. People say he is built like a Kevin Durant but needs to work on his outside shot.

RaptorsandBuckeye FaN 11-17-2011 04:47 PM

Harrison Barnes has always been consider a good shooter from outside but has been a streaky shooter from 3 since starting at UNC.

Windex 11-17-2011 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by halphbreedballer (Post 579880)
I think Drummonds stock is going to fall, he's done absolutely nothing so far through his 1st 2 games. He's averaging 4points & 4.5rebounds 2blks on 33% shooting...

only played 30 minutes and has 4 blocks
he's a true center and will improve, so he's a lock for the lottery

LKeet6 11-18-2011 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by RaptorsandBuckeye FaN (Post 579913)
Perry Jones is suspended right now Baylor from accepting money. I think he is suspended the first four games this year after missing the last two last year. Once he gets back he will be a top prospect. He was the preseason pick for POY in the Big 12.

Quincy Miller is a true freshman at Baylor also and is a SF. 6-9, projected top 10 pick in the next NBA draft. Averaging 18PPG in 3 games at Baylor in 24MPG shooting 51%, 6-9 from 3. People say he is built like a Kevin Durant but needs to work on his outside shot.

ok, thanks.

so people not really talking about him? not been on boards i've seen. any idea when he will declare? Could be a very attractive outside lottery pick? or reckon he will jump up the board when people start seeing him again?

carp 11-18-2011 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by LKeet6 (Post 580014)
ok, thanks.

so people not really talking about him? not been on boards i've seen. any idea when he will declare? Could be a very attractive outside lottery pick? or reckon he will jump up the board when people start seeing him again?

To me, he's the prototypical bust pick.... he could be a stud or he could be another uberathletic but wildly underachieving PF prospect. Add in the character issues and we're looking at a risky prospect.

DanH 11-18-2011 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by carp (Post 580017)
To me, he's the prototypical bust pick.... he could be a stud or he could be another uberathletic but wildly underachieving PF prospect. Add in the character issues and we're looking at a risky prospect.

There were a lot of the same concerns voiced last draft before he dropped out. I for one was glad he decided not to declare, so the Raps wouldn't take him - I agree with the prototypical bust pick suggestion. Don't see what his proponents see in his game.

Someguy again 11-18-2011 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by DanH (Post 580020)
There were a lot of the same concerns voiced last draft before he dropped out. I for one was glad he decided not to declare, so the Raps wouldn't take him - I agree with the prototypical bust pick suggestion. Don't see what his proponents see in his game.

its his ballhandling skills at that size which is huge for a forward like him, plus he has a solid jumpshot and people are already marking him as the next durant. However I thought he was gonna be big, but right now im skeptical if he even makes the 1st round just because he was mediocre at the NCAA level and that, despite his size, does not have the strength to compete defensively with power forwards.

carp 11-18-2011 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Someguy again (Post 580021)
its his ballhandling skills at that size which is huge for a forward like him, plus he has a solid jumpshot and people are already marking him as the next durant. However I thought he was gonna be big, but right now im skeptical if he even makes the 1st round just because he was mediocre at the NCAA level and that, despite his size, does not have the strength to compete defensively with power forwards.

Durant is more Ray Allen and this guy seems to be more of a KG style player.... though I peg him as more of an Anthony Randolph or Sean Williams type.

LKeet6 11-18-2011 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by carp (Post 580017)
To me, he's the prototypical bust pick.... he could be a stud or he could be another uberathletic but wildly underachieving PF prospect. Add in the character issues and we're looking at a risky prospect.

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Originally Posted by DanH (Post 580020)
There were a lot of the same concerns voiced last draft before he dropped out. I for one was glad he decided not to declare, so the Raps wouldn't take him - I agree with the prototypical bust pick suggestion. Don't see what his proponents see in his game.

ah, ok, good to get some more info on him. Thought he had potential to be one of those supersized SFs, which was why i was interested.

carp 11-18-2011 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LKeet6 (Post 580045)
ah, ok, good to get some more info on him. Thought he had potential to be one of those supersized SFs, which was why i was interested.

You're right... that's exactly his potential.... though the SF/PF mix is a wildly unpredictable thing it seems. I'd suggest he's more PF than SF though, but those guys often see themselves as SF which makes them much less valuable as exciting as it may have seemed to be as an ideal.

halphbreedballer 11-18-2011 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Windex (Post 579944)
only played 30 minutes and has 4 blocks
he's a true center and will improve, so he's a lock for the lottery

Actually I just checked his stats & in his last game he had 11points 14boards & 4 blocks on 45% shooting not too shabby, but he seems like he's holding back at least from highlights I have seen...

I too believe he is a lock for the lottery, & if you take into the fact there might not be NBA ball anytime soon, he will have time to get his feet wet in the NCAA, for probably more than the typical 1 year...

I'm gonna keep my eye on his improvement!


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