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Rizzy35 02-25-2012 07:50 PM

Is there a chance that the Raptors could get another Lottery Pick
 
Hey I was wondering if anyone thought that there was a chance that the Raps could trade to get another Lottery pick this year? maybe Jose Calderon?

Maybe Jose Calderon and Ed Davis to New Orleans for a 1st (Highly unlikely but this is one that came to mind)

LET'S GO RAPTORS!!!!! 02-25-2012 07:58 PM

Perry Jones III is more of a PF than a SF.

PS: He already plays for the Timberwolves :cookie:

jeffb 02-25-2012 08:02 PM

If we can draft MKG, then aquire a later pick and take Rivers i'd be thrilled.

carp 02-25-2012 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rizzy35 (Post 619611)
Hey I was wondering if anyone thought that there was a chance that the Raps could trade to get another Lottery pick this year? maybe Jose Calderon?

Maybe Jose Calderon and Ed Davis to New Orleans for a 1st (Highly unlikely but this is one that came to mind)

Doubt NO needs to give up their pick for more salary.

LET'S GO RAPTORS!!!!! 02-25-2012 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carp (Post 619621)
Doubt NO needs to give up their pick for more salary.

Yup, they are looking to shed salary, not add salary.

Also, DD for Milwaukee's pick.

carp 02-25-2012 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by LET'S GO RAPTORS!!!!! (Post 619626)
Yup, they are looking to shed salary, not add salary.

Also, DD for Milwaukee's pick.

problem is that Milwaukee has the talent to go on a run and that pick may not be as good so if you could get Delfino back too now you've got my vote!

DD/Ed for Pick/Delfino?

Obi-Wan Quinnobi 02-25-2012 10:53 PM

Trade calderon for a mid pick, pick up rivers.
Mold him into a PG, with the help of the signing of nash through the trade of barbosa, davis, 2nd rounder and bayless. Sign a backup SG
Our pick, get MKG or Barnes. Not davis the monobrow is to offputting....

Nash/rivers
DD/Backup
(barnes/MKG)/JJ
Bargs/Amir
JV/Grey

Solid playoff team with good young homegrown talent in bargs, DD, Rivers, Barnes or MKG and JV. Also Rivers learns from the best to work on his passing.
What do you guys think?

carp 02-25-2012 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Quinn (Post 619678)
Trade calderon for a mid pick, pick up rivers.
Mold him into a PG, with the help of the signing of nash through the trade of barbosa, davis, 2nd rounder and bayless. Sign a backup SG
Our pick, get MKG or Barnes. Not davis the monobrow is to offputting....

Nash/rivers
DD/Backup
(barnes/MKG)/JJ
Bargs/Amir
JV/Grey

Solid playoff team with good young homegrown talent in bargs, DD, Rivers, Barnes or MKG and JV. Also Rivers learns from the best to work on his passing.
What do you guys think?

Will take more to get Nash.

Obi-Wan Quinnobi 02-25-2012 11:09 PM

Replace 2nd rounder with 2013 1st ?

carp 02-25-2012 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Quinn (Post 619684)
Replace 2nd rounder with 2013 1st ?

well, I guess it depends if we're taking any salary back too..... which would be likely.

bigmandinky 02-25-2012 11:12 PM

Calderon to the Lakers for both their first rounders (they have Dallas's).

Obi-Wan Quinnobi 02-25-2012 11:15 PM

Yeah, plus barbosa probably would like to head back to pheonix, although his contract is HORRIBLE. So cash wuld have to be given back. But with the nash retiring soon, if i was pheonix i would take that. Cause rivers would only need nash for 1 and a bit years to learn. Also casey would improve his defence heaps!

carp 02-25-2012 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Quinn (Post 619693)
Yeah, plus barbosa probably would like to head back to pheonix, although his contract is HORRIBLE. So cash wuld have to be given back. But with the nash retiring soon, if i was pheonix i would take that. Cause rivers would only need nash for 1 and a bit years to learn. Also casey would improve his defence heaps!

Barbosa is an expiring.

Rizzy35 02-25-2012 11:17 PM

I love MKG Hes got one quality that I think the raptors really need. LEADERSHIP!!! But could you imagine if we could get another Lottery Pick finally get some Luck and maybe get two in the top 5 (Pipedream I know!!!)

jeffb 02-25-2012 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizzy35 (Post 619696)
I love MKG Hes got one quality that I think the raptors really need. LEADERSHIP!!! But could you imagine if we could get another Lottery Pick finally get some Luck and maybe get two in the top 5 (Pipedream I know!!!)

Realistically we likely won't get 1 top 5 pick. :haha:

Luck is exactly what we need.

Dark Knight 02-25-2012 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 619698)
Realistically we likely won't get 1 top 5 pick. :haha:

Luck is exactly what we need.

Andrew Luck?

http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/20...0502443025.jpg

rapsmannn 02-26-2012 06:55 AM

i want to trade our pick for a guy who has been in the league for a couple of years, obviously we would have to get a very good player to give up a lottery pick

steph curry is a guy that comes to mind, fits well with derozan and bargnani, also fits in the current age group

especially with the fact that the best player available when it comes time to select a pick for the raptors is most likely going to be a big

Shifty.py 02-26-2012 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigmandinky (Post 619688)
Calderon to the Lakers for both their first rounders (they have Dallas's).

This would be tempting if they didn't need to attach Artests or Waltons salary to make the deal work

Shifty.py 02-26-2012 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quinn (Post 619693)
Yeah, plus barbosa probably would like to head back to pheonix, although his contract is HORRIBLE. So cash wuld have to be given back. But with the nash retiring soon, if i was pheonix i would take that. Cause rivers would only need nash for 1 and a bit years to learn. Also casey would improve his defence heaps!

Why would he want to go back? Nash is literally the only player left from that old Phoenix team. And he is expiring

Carlito 02-26-2012 11:04 AM

If we get first pick, Anothony Davis has to be the pick.
Getting MKG would be great if we get the chance .. This kid plays hard and is a winner. I won't be surprised if he continues to move up the draft ratings. He doesn't have all the physical tools, but you want this guy on your team.

MrClutch 02-26-2012 11:39 AM

Im not choosing a player until I see these guys play in March Madness

Chiggmo 02-26-2012 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MrClutch (Post 619836)
Im not choosing a player until I see these guys play in March Madness

Agreed, thats where the real skills and leadership come out.

JDMtors 02-26-2012 03:22 PM

Unless you strike Gold like Cavs last year having their own pick and Clippers pick. Thus giving them 2 top 5 picks, I doubt Raptors will be able to have that much.

The most ideal thing I see possible is, our top 5 pick and maybe adding a late lotto to mid 1st rounder pick.

But if we trade Jose to the Lakers for Lakers + Dallas 1st. We can probably package those for a higher pick as well

Admiral 02-26-2012 03:33 PM

if anthony davis is the clear #1 then i want him
but other than that, i want a swingman (SG or SF), demar can play the other of the SG/SF positions

LET'S GO RAPTORS!!!!! 02-26-2012 04:14 PM

Delfino + Milwaukee's first rounder for DeRozan. Jennings and DD are buddies. Raps get a familiar face who they can keep or let go at the end of the season, raps get a valuable pick in a loaded draft. Currently there are 6 "lottery teams" with a better record than the bucks, that equates to their pick being 8th at the moment. Currently the bucks would have to surpass Cavs (who are in 9th), and/or Boston (who are in 8th) or NYK (who are in 7th), can they realistically get into 8th place? Maybe, but I think there is a good chance that they don't. DeRozan will be looking for an extension soon enough and with this extra pick the raps will have more control of a player's contract situation.

LOL, I swapped DD for Delfino in the espnnbatrademachine and the raps' record improved by 2 wins and the bucks' record got worse with an extra loss.

On another note, if the raps could get 1 or 2 of Barnes, MKG, Beal or Lamb that would be excellent. Q.Miller and A.Rivers would be great with a 12-18th pick. Maybe Marshall too but we already have the Spanish version of Mark Jackson :cookie:

PS: carp, DD + ED for Delfino + Milwaukee's pick is too much. It then becomes DD/ED for their pick as Delfino is an expiring. We would actually be helping them make a run as we'd be giving them 2 rotation players for one.

JDMtors 02-26-2012 04:45 PM

Jst thought I would mention that Rivers mentioned he might stay an extra year at Duke and come out for the 2013 draft.

Ill rather do Ed, Barbosa + 2013 1st for Jennings + 2012 1st and maybe stephen jackson whom we can waive after

LET'S GO RAPTORS!!!!! 02-26-2012 04:53 PM

Decent trade overall, but S.Jackson would have to be immediately waived due to his stance/attitude. And Milwaukee would say no instantly, they give up arguably their best player and their pick in a loaded draft for an expiring, a pick that will likely not be a top ten pick next year and Ed Davis whose ceiling is 10 ppg, 10 rpg and 1-2 bpg.

Also, no offense to Jennings but this team clearly needs a distributor at PG. I've already said this a million times but Bayless would be a slightly worse but much much much much cheaper alternative to Jennings. But he, like Jennings is not a natural distributor. Only way raps get a score first PG is if they land a SG who can handle and has good court vision or DD dramatically improves his handle, court vision, etc.

Rizzy35 02-26-2012 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JDMtors (Post 619899)
Jst thought I would mention that Rivers mentioned he might stay an extra year at Duke and come out for the 2013 draft.

MKG said the same thing :sigh: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist: 'I'm staying at Kentucky'

moremilk 02-27-2012 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rizzy35 (Post 619967)

not likely, especially if he's on target for a #2 selection. Too much money at stake. Last season there were a few high profile players who didn't declare, but there was all the uncertainty of the lockout. Otherwise, it's way too dangerous to risk a lot of money for one extra year in school.

I could see rivers hanging on though, he's rich and didn't have a great year, so it makes sense for him to try to improve his position next season.

moremilk 02-27-2012 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LET'S GO RAPTORS!!!!! (Post 619900)
Decent trade overall, but S.Jackson would have to be immediately waived due to his stance/attitude. And Milwaukee would say no instantly, they give up arguably their best player and their pick in a loaded draft for an expiring, a pick that will likely not be a top ten pick next year and Ed Davis whose ceiling is 10 ppg, 10 rpg and 1-2 bpg.

Also, no offense to Jennings but this team clearly needs a distributor at PG. I've already said this a million times but Bayless would be a slightly worse but much much much much cheaper alternative to Jennings. But he, like Jennings is not a natural distributor. Only way raps get a score first PG is if they land a SG who can handle and has good court vision or DD dramatically improves his handle, court vision, etc.

think you missed the trade details, we don't get jennings, we get their pick. Milwaukee keeps jennings and derozan. It's actually an interesting trade, I think the raptors would do it in a hearbeat, we'd probably have to sweeten the pot for the bucks though.

It really depends on how much they like derozan, because frankly, he's a bad, bad fit in Milwaukee as far as I'm concerned. They need a 3pt shooter to space the floor for bogut/jennings and lockdown defense because BJ is undersized.


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