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Old 07-24-2013, 01:11 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I had high hopes for Ross to come into the summer league with an improved overall game but instead this happened:

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Against players he should be better than (and in most cases, more athletic than), Ross seemed content to float around on offense and wait for a mid range jumper to present itself. He averaged 12.6 points on 42% shooting, again struggling with the three-point shot (3-for-13). Perhaps most disappointing, he went 8-for-9 from the line in his first six minutes of said Denver game but took just nine free throw attempts in the rest of his 117 minutes combined.

He also turned the ball over 3.4 times a game and tended to play more of a free safety role on defense than locking anyone down. This makes the highlight reel and piles up the steals, perfect for getting noticed but not necessarily appropriate in the confines of a defensive scheme.
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After a subpar rookie season, and a terrible summer league showing, I cannot help but be concerned about Terrence Ross and his development (or lack of).

I understand that he was picked higher than most expected, but he is also playing more poorly than most expected.

What gives?



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He's dissapointing me a bit, but not because I think he's shit. I think he has some tools that would allow him to be a good 6th man in this league, but he can't afford to coast. Who knows? Maybe he's lazy with a low b-ball IQ. Or maybe he performs better when given a specific role off the bench during the regular season. Gonna have to wait and see.

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He's dissapointing me a bit, but not because I think he's shit. I think he has some tools that would allow him to be a good 6th man in this league, but he can't afford to coast. Who knows? Maybe he's lazy with a low b-ball IQ. Or maybe he performs better when given a specific role off the bench during the regular season. Gonna have to wait and see.

The one thing that confuses me is that I kept hearing how he was a great shooter out of college. He is a sub par shooter in the league so far.
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The one thing that confuses me is that I kept hearing how he was a great shooter out of college. He is a sub par shooter in the league so far.
I didn't see all of the summer league games. I had a poor stream when I tried to watch, so I can't really even comment that much about what happened. But based on what's been written by bloggers and other Raptors fans, I gather he didn't kill it. But last season some of his poor shooting seemed like a) poor shot selection b) lack of confidence when given reduced minutes. Both of which can explain why a player can be streaky and inconsistent.

From a physiological standpoint, I think he has a good stroke. That's why I was optimistic that Ross would be a good rotation player. In terms of form, Ross's stroke is certainly better than Demar's has looked, although my fingers are crossed that Demar keeps getting better and better. But, again, having decent form doesn't always translate to a good fg% since there are a bunch of variables involved in determining that stat.

And the other stuff, I don't know. I didn't see summer league. Seriously. Maybe he's dumb and/or lazy.

Anyway, maybe TORap was right? Ross is dogshit!

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I recognize that Ross came in a little older, but isn't this the stage where people were calling Derozan a bust?
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I recognize that Ross came in a little older, but isn't this the stage where people were calling Derozan a bust?
Were people calling him a total bust? I don't remember if it got that bad, so I'm honestly asking. Ross is about the same age as when SJ was saying that Demar is "Harold Minor".

Oh, and I'm pretty sure Carp still thinks Demar is a bust.
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He shouldn't have been drafted 8th, that's for sure.

Drummond could become the 2nd best big in the league (behind JV of course )

Ross has a small chance to become a 3+D starter
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This thread is ridiculous man... smh
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A thread created with the intent of gathering fellow Raptor fans opinions on Terrence Ross and his struggles so far is ridiculous?

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JVs stellar play totally made me forget we had two rookies. Drummond JV combo would have been freaking awesome tho
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Guy makes Demar expendable if he can find his game.
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yea.. he would if he had Demars confidence and work ethic.. but with Terrence it depends on his mental toughness.. because he has all the tools but he a quiet guy
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A thread created with the intent of gathering fellow Raptor fans opinions on Terrence Ross and his struggles so far is ridiculous?

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Ross' name and 'bust' shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence right now. Give the guy at least 2 to 3 years in the league before writing him off... It often takes shooters several years to find their stroke and confidence. Look at JJ Redick, had a slow start but turned out great.

How Drummond keeps popping up in Ross discussions is beyond me. It's not Ross' fault he was drafted in front of him and he shouldn't be burdened with it. Drummond also had a clear path into the starting lineup and was allowed to make mistakes on a sucky team. At least Ross had some competition in Demar.

There's no doubt in my mind Ross can be a good to great starter on some team, whether it's the Raptors I don't know. A bust however he is not. Yet.
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I judge rookies after half their year playing as a sophmore in the nba, so im gonna say its too early.
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Ross' name and 'bust' shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence right now. Give the guy at least 2 to 3 years in the league before writing him off... It often takes shooters several years to find their stroke and confidence. Look at JJ Redick, had a slow start but turned out great.

How Drummond keeps popping up in Ross discussions is beyond me. It's not Ross' fault he was drafted in front of him and he shouldn't be burdened with it. Drummond also had a clear path into the starting lineup and was allowed to make mistakes on a sucky team. At least Ross had some competition in Demar.

There's no doubt in my mind Ross can be a good to great starter on some team, whether it's the Raptors I don't know. A bust however he is not. Yet.
I don't know if I'd call JJ Redick great. Most guys on the board were hoping Ross could be a good starter. JJ is a role player off the bench. If ross became Redick it wouldn't be terrible but it's not the greatest scenario. And in JJ's rookie season he at least showed he could shoot 3s. 39% from 3. Per 36 JJ's rookie season outclasses Ross' in every way. But I digress, I agree Ross is too early to be judged.

And Drummond keeps popping up because he was the obvious pick at the time and has proven that to us. The same way we laugh at Cleveland fans for the Cavs choosing Thompson over Val, Pistons fans will be doing that to us. Ross was supposed to be NBA ready and that was why he was selected 8th over Drummond, who would've been great for us. He failed to show that. In fact, the only thing he really has shown is he's quick and jumps high. Anything else remains to be seen.
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I don't know if I'd call JJ Redick great. Most guys on the board were hoping Ross could be a good starter. JJ is a role player off the bench. If ross became Redick it wouldn't be terrible but it's not the greatest scenario. And in JJ's rookie season he at least showed he could shoot 3s. 39% from 3. Per 36 JJ's rookie season outclasses Ross' in every way. But I digress, I agree Ross is too early to be judged.
Redick is a bit more than a role player, he's starter material averaging 15,1 and 4,4 apg the year before last. He'll most likely be the starting 2 for the Clips this year, if they choose to bring Crawford off the bench.

Not bad for a guy who couldn't crack the rotation in his first 3 years with Orlando. He was widely considered a bust at the time, the dip in mpg in his second season was painful. But now obviously worthy of the 11th pick they spent on him.

But Redick is just one example of patience paying off, there are probably many more. I think Ross can put up similar numbers but he needs to be given a chance and confidence, which he'll probably never get if Demar stays.

I'm not asking for the world here, but like the whole "giving our core a chance vs. tanking" discussion, I want one or two more years before drawing any conclusions about Ross being a bust.

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And Drummond keeps popping up because he was the obvious pick at the time and has proven that to us. The same way we laugh at Cleveland fans for the Cavs choosing Thompson over Val, Pistons fans will be doing that to us. Ross was supposed to be NBA ready and that was why he was selected 8th over Drummond, who would've been great for us. He failed to show that. In fact, the only thing he really has shown is he's quick and jumps high. Anything else remains to be seen.
While this may all be true, it's not really Ross' problem. He never asked to be drafted 8th so he is not to blame. Point your anger towards BC for putting him in this position (and we all have at length lol). Now that BC is fired (his draft record being one of the obvious causes) it's probably best to give Ross a clean slate to prove himself, freed from unfair expectations or comparisons.

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