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Old 03-19-2012, 09:52 PM   #61 (permalink)
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god damnit new jersey had good shot at winning the game but choked. GET A WIN ALREADY YOU STINKING NETS!
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Old 03-19-2012, 09:53 PM   #62 (permalink)
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god damnit new jersey had good shot at winning the game but choked. GET A WIN ALREADY YOU STINKING NETS!
They've got Charlotte coming up.

At least they lost to Cleveland.
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Old 03-19-2012, 11:57 PM   #63 (permalink)
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the sad part is they're not even tanking, they just suck
deron has probably checked out already. Hopefully when lopez returns at full strength, and now with wallace, they'll find the resources to pull a 5 game winning streak or something.

I have a feeling these stupid meaningless wins against the likes of memphis will really come back to bite us. If we end up with the 4th worst record and the team ahead of us wins the lottery, that'll be crushing
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Old 03-20-2012, 12:30 AM   #64 (permalink)
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the sad part is they're not even tanking, they just suck
deron has probably checked out already. Hopefully when lopez returns at full strength, and now with wallace, they'll find the resources to pull a 5 game winning streak or something.

I have a feeling these stupid meaningless wins against the likes of memphis will really come back to bite us. If we end up with the 4th worst record and the team ahead of us wins the lottery, that'll be crushing
If we end up with the 4th last record ill be pretty damn happy

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Old 03-20-2012, 01:01 AM   #65 (permalink)
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ya 4th worst is kind of the goal right now. 1 - 3rd last are locked up basically.
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Old 03-20-2012, 01:23 AM   #66 (permalink)
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And last year we were third worse and ended up fifth for the lottery balls so whatever
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Old 03-20-2012, 01:38 AM   #67 (permalink)
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And last year we were third worse and ended up fifth for the lottery balls so whatever
Yea, but the fact is that the shittier your record is the better odds you have
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Currently we are tied with New jersey and Detroit for that 4th spot in the draft. Now New jersey is going to need to tank hard because they're pick belongs to Portland unless they manage to sneak into the 3rd spot, which I don't see happening.

New Jersey's next 5:

vs. Jazz
vs. Pacers
@ Warriors
@ Kings
vs. Lakers

Hopefully they're able to at least pull out a record of 2-3.

Pistons next 5 games:

@ Wizards
@ Cavaliers
@ Bulls
vs. Bobcats
vs. Magic

I see Detroit doing very well and playing themselves right out of that 4th spot in the draft. Let's hope.
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Old 03-26-2012, 09:47 AM   #69 (permalink)
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The battlefield is getting fierce!

Kings
Cavs
Pistons
Raptors
Nets

All within 2 game striking distance of each other.
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Old 03-26-2012, 10:37 AM   #70 (permalink)
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The battlefield is getting fierce!

Kings
Cavs
Pistons
Raptors
Nets

All within 2 game striking distance of each other.
Yes, but the Raptors have no excuse for their flagrant disprespect! Injuries, a short-handed, youth, a Butler, a deliberate tank year and yet they refuse to get run over. For eyebrow's sake!
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Old 03-26-2012, 05:44 PM   #71 (permalink)
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From the freakonomics site - LINK

It's a pretty good argument, centered mostly around what the Blazers did recently, but it applies here. BC is going to have to work hard, and not just hope for the sure pick. Although I think Davis would be a good start for sure.
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Old 03-26-2012, 10:24 PM   #72 (permalink)
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I think at this point, if you aren't on the tank with this team until the very bottom you really don;t get the big picture! We aren't going to win the championship this year, so why not add up the losses and get closer to that number 1 pick!

Check this out though. We went to the ACC last Friday and asked people about linsanity and more specifically about tanking, and most people were against the idea...check it out the vid!

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Old 03-26-2012, 10:26 PM   #73 (permalink)
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don't like that article for a number of reasons:

1. wallace might have been a good player in the past, and maybe he still is very good, but he's getting old. For somebody who relies on his athletic abilities, he'll see a major drop in performance. He may hold on like marion for a number of years and be a solid piece, but he's not going to dominate defensively like he did even two years ago.

2. let's not discount the salaries - a rookie will make 7 million less than wallace and with the difference you could acquire a really good second player.

3. good teams become great and so on - this is where I have a major issue with the article. First, the NBA is such a sport that once you become good, you're very likely to remain good for a long time. It's an elitist sport, where it's difficult to join the club, but once in, you're made. That's because there are only a few really good players in every generation (15-29 years) and they tend to stick with their first good team. So Dallas, SA, Lakers, Miami - they've all been very good for almost a decade or so. It's extremely difficult to do it, because often you need to get lucky multiple times (SAS getting #1 in Duncan, but also finding outstanding players really late in the draft in Parker and Manu).
So yes, good teams tend to stay good and even winning the lottery is not a ticket to success. Ultimately you need good management AND a lot of luck among other things.

But, if you want to be taken seriously (as a writer) and not just as somebody pushing his own theory to the front, you need to evaluate the opposite scenario as well. How many teams in the modern NBA history have made the jump from average to excellent without getting really lucky (finding a superstar late in the draft, being able to pull a wildly unbalanced trade etc). How often does a strategy like the one employed by Houston pays off, and how often it pays off for a team in an unattractive market etc.

I don't have the numbers, only my memory of recent seasons. And I only recall a single team being able to pull it off, Detroit, and there was quite a bit of luck involved there as well, not least the timing of it (very weak conference those years and towards the end of the Lakers dynasty). A lot more teams did it through the draft, especially in small markets (SAS, Atlanta, OKC, Memphis, even Minesotta is drafting their way to a really good team and there really are a lot of examples).

And the list of teams who got to a certain level and got stuck in .500 land for years and years is also very long (Houston, Indiana of a few years ago, 76ers in AI's time, NJ with Carter and Kidd, Dallas, Seattle, Chicago (before Rose), Boston (before KG), Minesotta (with KG), even VC's Toronto Raptors. Occasionally, a team like Dallas or 76ers will rise to the top or near it, but for the most part, these teams are condemned to a life of average/good regular seasons followed by a short playoff run and futile promises of a better future.
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:05 AM   #74 (permalink)
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Hey, Blazers put Babbitt in. J.J. Hickson looks like an All-Star. We might not have a full on tank, but those Bradley Fighting Vehicles can hold their own.
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Old 03-27-2012, 10:11 AM   #75 (permalink)
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Denver, then Miami, then Washington, then Charlotte.


NO...............WINS...............'TIL WASHINGTON!!!!!!!


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Old 03-31-2012, 08:15 AM   #76 (permalink)
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As of last nights loss to the Heat the Raptors are in sole possession of the 4th pick hooray!
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Old 03-31-2012, 09:43 AM   #77 (permalink)
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Raptors (17-35)...Cavs (17-32)…Kings (18-33)…Pistons (18-33)…Nets (18-35)
4/1 Wizards…...….3/31 Knicks…..3/31 Nets……...3/31 Bobcats….…3/31 Kings
4/3 Bobcats……...4/3 Spurs……...4/2 Wolves…….4/3 Magic………....4/3 Lakers
4/4 76ers…….…...4/4 Bucks……...4/3 Suns…….….4/5 Wizards……...4/4 Blazers
4/6 Cavaliers……..4/6 Raptors…..4/5 Clippers….…4/6 Hawks…….....4/6 Wizards
4/8 Thunder……...4/8 Nets………..4/7 Clippers…...4/8 Heat…….…....4/8 Cavaliers
4/9 Pacers…….....4/10 Bobcats…4/8 Rockets….…4/9 Magic……..….4/10 76ers
4/11 76ers…….....4/11 Pacers……4/10 Mavs……...4/12 Bobcats…….4/13 76ers
4/13 Celtics……...4/13 Pacers……4/11 Hornets…..4/13 Bucks……....4/14 Celtics
4/15 Hawks…...…4/14 Wizards….4/13 Thunder…..4/15 Bulls…….…..4/16 Heat
4/16 Hawks……...4/15 Magic…....4/15 Blazers…….4/17 Cavaliers.….4/18 Knicks
4/18 Heat…….....4/17 Pistons……4/18 Spurs……...4/18 Hawks….…..4/21 Bucks
4/22 Pistons…..…4/18 76ers……..4/20 Thunder…..4/19 Wolves……..4/23 76ers
4/23 Bucks…...….4/20 Knicks….…4/22 Bobcats…..4/22 Raptors…….4/26 Raptors
4/26 Nets…….....4/22 Spurs……..4/24 Thunder…..4/23 Pacers
…….…….….........4/23 Grizzlies…..4/26 Lakers……..4/26 76ers
…….…….…….......4/25 Wizards
…….…….….........4/26 Bulls

Nets have the hardest schedule . These next two games, and the last one are important...
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Old 03-31-2012, 12:59 PM   #78 (permalink)
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Last game of the season: Raps v Nets

Epic tank battle.

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Old 03-31-2012, 01:36 PM   #79 (permalink)
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Raptors (17-35)...Cavs (17-32)…Kings (18-33)…Pistons (18-33)…Nets (18-35)
4/1 Wizards…...….3/31 Knicks…..3/31 Nets……...3/31 Bobcats….…3/31 Kings
4/3 Bobcats……...4/3 Spurs……...4/2 Wolves…….4/3 Magic………....4/3 Lakers
4/4 76ers…….…...4/4 Bucks……...4/3 Suns…….….4/5 Wizards……...4/4 Blazers
4/6 Cavaliers……..4/6 Raptors…..4/5 Clippers….…4/6 Hawks…….....4/6 Wizards
4/8 Thunder……...4/8 Nets………..4/7 Clippers…...4/8 Heat…….…....4/8 Cavaliers
4/9 Pacers…….....4/10 Bobcats…4/8 Rockets….…4/9 Magic……..….4/10 76ers
4/11 76ers…….....4/11 Pacers……4/10 Mavs……...4/12 Bobcats…….4/13 76ers
4/13 Celtics……...4/13 Pacers……4/11 Hornets…..4/13 Bucks……....4/14 Celtics
4/15 Hawks…...…4/14 Wizards….4/13 Thunder…..4/15 Bulls…….…..4/16 Heat
4/16 Hawks……...4/15 Magic…....4/15 Blazers…….4/17 Cavaliers.….4/18 Knicks
4/18 Heat…….....4/17 Pistons……4/18 Spurs……...4/18 Hawks….…..4/21 Bucks
4/22 Pistons…..…4/18 76ers……..4/20 Thunder…..4/19 Wolves……..4/23 76ers
4/23 Bucks…...….4/20 Knicks….…4/22 Bobcats…..4/22 Raptors…….4/26 Raptors
4/26 Nets…….....4/22 Spurs……..4/24 Thunder…..4/23 Pacers
…….…….….........4/23 Grizzlies…..4/26 Lakers……..4/26 76ers
…….…….…….......4/25 Wizards
…….…….….........4/26 Bulls

Nets have the hardest schedule . These next two games, and the last one are important...

Cavs have to play 16games in 23nights(from 4/3-4/26) to finish the season. Ouch.. In that stretch they play 3 nights in a row, and a few 4games in 5nights type runs. That is going to be tough for them. I WANT MY $$$$. Hopefully it finishes Cavs, Raptors, Kings, Pistons, Nets.

Anyone ball game between the 5 though. Time to find out who is the best at tanking!

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Old 03-31-2012, 01:41 PM   #80 (permalink)
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