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Bankiz 05-08-2011 10:41 AM

take the GM place :
 
Put you in the GM shoes right now, with an expected 3th draft pick and the current roster. forget about the new CBA too.

what things this summer would you do :
1. who would you draft at the 3th ?
2. what trade are you willing to do ?
3. what will you do with the coach situation ?

dfunkie1 05-08-2011 10:45 AM

1. BPA
2. one that gives us the best return
3. keep traino and hope his balls drop a little further

Bankiz 05-08-2011 11:03 AM

1. Kniight (irving and williams will be out, so i choose the best available PG.)

2.
- trade bargs for a top 4-7 draft pick 2011 + a good SF player (D wright) and draft biyombo with the pick.
- buy the right of Sofoklís Schortsianítis and bring him here for MLE.
- trade barbosa to chicago for the first charlotte 2012 pick and asik.
- resign evans as our vet leader.
- resign weems as the sg backup

- "if possible" trade caldy for a mid/late first and a 2nd round pick (not in 2011).

3.
with a team like this :
Bayless/knight/"caldy"
DD/weems
JJ/D wright/kleiza
davis/amir/biyombo
sofo/asik/evans

i would give a chance to Jay with this team.

Northern Neighbour 05-08-2011 11:42 AM

1. With the 11th overall pick (see trade below with Golden State), select BPA - likely candidates include Jan Vesely, Marcus Morris, and Kawhi Leonard.

2.
a) Three-team trade:
Toronto trades Bargnani (Golden State), Calderon (CHA), and the #3 overall selection (Golden State) for Ellis (GS), Biedrins (GS), and GS's #11 overall selection (assuming the lottery falls according to the final standings).

Golden State trades Ellis (TOR), Biedrins (TOR), and #11 overall pick (TOR) for Bargnani (TOR), Diaw (CHA), and #3 overall pick (TOR).

Charlotte trades Diaw (GS) for Calderon (TOR).

NOTE: Diaw has a player option for 2011-12, and I don't see him opting out with the current labour situation not to mention that he won't earn $8M on his new deal.

b) Three-team trade:
Toronto trades Barbosa to Memphis and Weems (S&T) to Dallas for Caron Butler (S&T from Dallas).

Dallas trades Caron Butler (S&T) to Toronto and a future first-round pick to Memphis for Mayo (MEM) and Weems (TOR).

Memphis trades Mayo to Dallas for Barbosa (from TOR) and a future first-round pick from Dallas.

c) Re-sign Ajinca to a two-year contract.

3. Fire Triano, who is better suited as an assistant head coach. Hire Brian Shaw, if he's not retained by the Lakers, to be the head coach.

Lineup:

PG - Ellis/Bayless
SG - DeRozan/Kleiza
SF - Butler/Johnson/first-round selection
PF - Davis/Johnson/Dorsey
C - Biedrins/Ajinca/Alabi

dfunkie1 05-08-2011 11:57 AM

that's twice i've seen sofo's name mentioned today. i remember when he was drafted, he received as much hype as biyombo (potential top ten pick) and ended up being selected in the second round. hasn't he been dealing with fatness issues? regardless, having him as our starting center is a bit ridiculous, don't you think? i doubt he'd have the conditioning to play 15 minutes of NBA ball.

also, i don't agree with bargs for draft picks. although i wouldn't mind having one in return, we'd need a legitimate player in return for him. taking some project for a proven player isn't the smartest move.

barbose for asik and the bobcats first isn't going to happen. the bulls wouldn't trade asik for mayo and it's quite possible that the bobcats are going to be in contention of the 1st pick in next years draft.

'trane 05-08-2011 12:29 PM

'fatness issues' is perhaps one of the best phrases ever written here at rf. :yeah:

Don Vito 05-08-2011 12:32 PM

1. Not going to answer this because there is no way of knowing which position we will get. Once we officially find out which spot we're at, I'll be able to answer this.

2. Anything that will improve this team.. getting rid of bad contracts like Calderon and Kleiza. Also signing some young guys with potential like James Johnson.

3. Keep Triano for one more year. With the impending lockout, ownership, and GM situation... this isn't the right time to look for a new coach.

jeffb 05-08-2011 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bankiz (Post 536712)
Put you in the GM shoes right now, with an expected 3th draft pick and the current roster. forget about the new CBA too.

what things this summer would you do :
1. who would you draft at the 3th ?
2. what trade are you willing to do ?
3. what will you do with the coach situation ?

1. Try to move up to 1 or 2 if at all possible, if not BPA
2. Bargs and Jose should be traded if a decent deal can be had. Doesn't have to be great.
3. Fire Triano and target Lawrence Frank and go after him hard

Kirby 05-08-2011 08:18 PM

1. Assuming Williams and Irving are gone, I'd grab Kemba Walker. As of now we still don't know who will sneak up in draft ratings so we'll see after the combine/workouts.

2. I would by any means try and S&T for Wilson Chandler. I don't know if Denver would bite on Bargnani but Chandler would do wonders for the team at the 3.
An alternate trade for Varejao or Bynum wouldn't look too bad.

3. Keep Triano on the coaching staff to continue the rebuild.

Don Vito 05-08-2011 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeffb (Post 536737)
1. Try to move up to 1 or 2 if at all possible, if not BPA
2. Bargs and Jose should be traded if a decent deal can be had. Doesn't have to be great.
3. Fire Triano and target Lawrence Frank and go after him hard

Why are you so obsessed with Lawrence Frank? Is it because he coached the Nets to the worst record in NBA history?

TORaptor4Ever 05-08-2011 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Vito (Post 536839)
Why are you so obsessed with Lawrence Frank? Is it because he coached the Nets to the worst record in NBA history?

Ummmm.... you know that was fired 16 games into that season right? And that team was stripped of all it's good players (K-Mart, Kidd, RJ, VC).

What exactly were the Nets expected to do that year? :confused2:

jeffb 05-08-2011 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don Vito (Post 536839)
Why are you so obsessed with Lawrence Frank? Is it because he coached the Nets to the worst record in NBA history?

As usual you haven't got a clue.

DocHoliday99 05-08-2011 11:03 PM

This is tough because there are so many possible factors starting first with BC - will he be here. If he is then Triano I think will stay till at least the all star break. If BC is gone then so is Triano. So under the assumption the BC stays and Triano is here then:

1) draft - no idea as we don't know where we are picking till the 17th. If no 1 Williams, then I would select the best available pg, at #2 Irving, at #3-4 Knight or #5-6 Walker.

2) trade - whoever the Raps draft, the team still needs a center. This is big cause imo Bargs or Davis will have to go forcing the team to choose a style of play, finally - PF on the perimeter or PF in the paint. IMO that will be decided by the center that we are able to get. Either Davis or Bargs will be able to bring something back. No one on the roster is untouchable so if a deal that makes the Raps better comes along then it should happen.

3) Coach - I would keep Triano to see what he can do with a healthy roster, a set style of play and more talent. I would believe he has till the All Star break to do this.

moremilk 05-09-2011 02:24 AM

get the bpa, unless he's a 2 or 4. Our needs are across the board and drafting for need is pretty much drafting any position :)

as far as bargnani, I wouldn't try to get an established player, unless he's young and with potential, somebody like evan turner for example (not turner per se, but that profile - potential marked by some kind of dissapointment). Nobody's going to trade you their prized young assets for bargnani, unless they can't afford to keep them (i.e. don't want to overpay them).

and whatever you do, stay away from character issues. For all the dissapointments, at least we had good citizens here, if we get somebody like cousins, even that remaining virtue would be lost :)

moremilk 05-09-2011 02:27 AM

and we're not getting a #4 pick in 2011 for bargnani, I doubt we'd be getting that for davis or derozan to be honest. That draft is supposed to be a major one, very deep and very strong at the top. People are comparing it with the '03 draft from what I've read.

Bankiz 05-09-2011 02:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by moremilk (Post 536917)
and we're not getting a #4 pick in 2011 for bargnani, I doubt we'd be getting that for davis or derozan to be honest. That draft is supposed to be a major one, very deep and very strong at the top. People are comparing it with the '03 draft from what I've read.

i'm sure you talk about the 2012 draft, no ?

Windex 05-09-2011 09:22 AM

1. who would you draft at the 3th ?
Irving, Williams, Walker in that order

2. what trade are you willing to do ?
hard to say a particular trade. but I'd trade anyone outside of Davis and probably DeRozan unless the price is right
Ibaka, Harden (OKC can't afford all these guys in the future), Gasol, J Smith, AK47, Oden, Hayes, Brewer

3. what will you do with the coach situation ?
fire Triano. hire Mike Budenholzer

powerfulpanda 05-09-2011 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jackson Filth (Post 536720)
that's twice i've seen sofo's name mentioned today. i remember when he was drafted, he received as much hype as biyombo (potential top ten pick) and ended up being selected in the second round. hasn't he been dealing with fatness issues? regardless, having him as our starting center is a bit ridiculous, don't you think? i doubt he'd have the conditioning to play 15 minutes of NBA ball.

also, i don't agree with bargs for draft picks. although i wouldn't mind having one in return, we'd need a legitimate player in return for him. taking some project for a proven player isn't the smartest move.

barbose for asik and the bobcats first isn't going to happen. the bulls wouldn't trade asik for mayo and it's quite possible that the bobcats are going to be in contention of the 1st pick in next years draft.

the same guy brought him up twice.....early indications of a fan boy


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