T.O. Sports: Marion Sign and Trade= Rudy Fernandez?

Dr. J. Naismith · 07-08-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Malcolm

So now that our esteemed GM has decided that his reputation will save him with his latest acquisition. I have decided to take the high road, and save the fire and brimstone demise of the Raptor franchise for another day. Basically for all of you Raptor junkies the Turkoglu signing is a great thing, simply because there likely will be another set of smaller transactions happening in the near future.

Shawn Marion reportedly turned down a 4 year\30 Million contract according to various media outlets and websites. My problem with this is that Marion is delusional if he still thinks he’s a max player, and the reported 30 million the Raptors offered must be based on past reputation and the small sample of games played when the ENTIRE lineup was relatively healthy.

For the most part I feel that the pursuit of Marion by Dallas is also based on the Phoenix version of Marion and not the older slower version that is currently the apple of Mark Cuban’s eye. So how does Rudy Fernandez factor into all of this? Quite simple it is a well known fact that Marion is looking for the most money (please don’t buy into all of that I want to play for a contender garbage, he’s looking to get paid) and Cuban is an owner that will spend to get the best product on the floor. So logically while the Raptors could have offered him more, frankly the team must have felt he’s not worth it. So this leads to the natural conclusion of Portland in this whole transaction.

Portland has some of the most impressive collection of young talent in the NBA. The best part of this statement is that they have a vast collection of that young talent and the game of basketball is still five-on-five. Rumors have circulated that Rudy is not happy with how he’s being used and the Raptors have a HUGE opening at Shooting Guard. So how can Toronto acquire another international player and continue their transformation into Phoenix North?

Include Portland as the third team in the proposed Marion trade. Let’s quickly break this down: Marion gets whatever his agent decides to negotiate with Dallas, Portland gets two second-round draft picks or even a conditional first-rounder from Dallas and a second-rounder from Toronto; Toronto gets Rudy, Dallas gets Marion, Marion gets paid, Rudy gets to play more, and Kevin Prtichard (Portland GM) gets more leverage, and monopoly money for the drafts the acquired picks are for. Everyone is happy!

Why? This trade would allow the Raptors to acquire a low-cost, high reward player in Fernandez, Marion ‘helps’ Dallas continue their never-ending march to the NBA finals, and Portland can continue to stock up young talent when some of the current players look for bigger paydays. As a side bar Turkoglu can come without a sign and trade with Orlando who have sold their only marketable ‘young player’ in Courtney Lee (Dwight Howard doesn’t count for hopefully obvious reasons).

While I DO NOT IN ANY WAY support the signing of Turkoglu (as reviewed in this article here) this trade would allow our soon-to-be-embattled GM to acquire an asset to continue the filling out of next year’s roster with talent. (Please keep in mind signing a non-drafted rookie free agent, or a re-tread like Mike Sweetney does not constitute an upgrade of talent). The question now is how can we turn Chris Bosh into the most coveted ‘big man’ in order to get some foolish GM (Chris Wallace anyone?) to overpay to acquire him.

Source - Marion Sign and Trade= Rudy Fernandez? : T.O. Sports

the_ raps_analyst · 07-08-2009, 10:14 AM

Not a bad deal, but how would dallas accept a contract if they arent giving up anything?

Gurk · 07-08-2009, 10:15 AM

I would love to get Fernandez. He is waaaaaaaay better then Stack and Wright. I would love for this to go through

jeffb · 07-08-2009, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by the_ raps_analyst

Not a bad deal, but how would dallas accept a contract if they arent giving up anything?

I'm guessing that it would be something like

Dallas gets Marion/Banks

Portland gets Stackhouse/Cash/Pick(s) -they buy him out with the Cash considerations

Toronto gets Fernandez

Snooch · 07-08-2009, 10:21 AM

I just cant see how it is even possible. at all.

jeffb · 07-08-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Snooch

I just cant see how it is even possible. at all.

Possible or not, it won't happen.

tommysdu · 07-08-2009, 10:23 AM

that would be amazing but i have a feeling this will never happen, rudy is a really good player and Blazers won't let him go for garbage

Torontosaurus · 07-08-2009, 10:51 AM

Blazers get completely taken for a ride in this scenario. No chance of happening.

**Belsius** · 07-08-2009, 10:56 AM

Rudy Fernandez has clearly said he wants to stay in Portland. He played more minutes than he expected the first year. He didnt like the idea of bringing Hedo to Portland because it would be too many players to share the minutes, but he clearly said he loves it there.

tommysdu · 07-08-2009, 10:58 AM

should trade hedo for outlaw and rudy, portland gets what they want and we get 2 for 1. TADA we got one more for the bench!!!!

Apollo · 07-08-2009, 11:00 AM

...I thought this was going to be a legit rumor, not a wet dream.

**zachus** · 07-08-2009, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Apollo

...I thought this was going to be a legit rumor, not a wet dream.

+1. My heart skipped a beat.

**halphbreedballer** · 07-08-2009, 11:12 AM

Yah if only

gdaytday · 07-08-2009, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Apollo

...I thought this was going to be a legit rumor, not a wet dream.

Great description!

Superjudge · 07-08-2009, 11:30 AM

No offence, but who gives a flying fuck what this Dude is writing. Do I care if he, in his infinite NBA wisdom doesn't support colangelo signing the best player available in 2009????

Honestly, is this guy telling me, that if we brought the NBA camera's to record he and Colangelo debating thew Toronto Roster, and his decisions, he'd be raring to go????

I sure as fuck hope so, because to be honest, nothing woul dplease me more than to see some internet blogger wannabe get put solidly in his place.

What a croack of shit.....

"While I DO NOT IN ANY WAY support the signing of Turkoglu (as reviewed in this article here)"

Good for you big fella, I'll let ya know when Bryan is ready to ask you for your expert opinion.

macs · 07-08-2009, 11:47 AM

SJ, you're a very angry man.

Jakkal · 07-08-2009, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Snooch

I just cant see how it is even possible. at all.

I agree. How do we sign Turk if Fernandez is added to the cap?

tommysdu · 07-08-2009, 11:55 AM

people should stop talking about whether or not they like Hedo, hes going to be a Raptor. End of story!!!

Windex · 07-08-2009, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by tommysdu

people should stop talking about whether or not they like Hedo, hes going to be a Raptor. End of story!!!

did they sign the contract yet?

tommysdu · 07-08-2009, 12:04 PM

BC has to sign Hedo, he can't go back to Marion. Marion is most likly pissed off at BC for not signing him, and if BC changes his mind Marion is going to ask for a crazy amount. So the only option left if not sign Hedo is just sign Delfino and Parker. BC will not be able to leave his office alive if he does that.

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tommysdu 'twas a dream teenage dirtbag Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: markham ontario canada Posts: 526 Representing:	that would be amazing but i have a feeling this will never happen, rudy is a really good player and Blazers won't let him go for garbage

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Torontosaurus waiting for the Masai-a on ihateus Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Victoria, home of the Nash-ites Posts: 3,548 Representing:	Blazers get completely taken for a ride in this scenario. No chance of happening.

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Belsius a paranoid android My name is Iñigo Montoya Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Madrid, Spain Posts: 10,548 Representing:	Rudy Fernandez has clearly said he wants to stay in Portland. He played more minutes than he expected the first year. He didnt like the idea of bringing Hedo to Portland because it would be too many players to share the minutes, but he clearly said he loves it there.

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tommysdu 'twas a dream teenage dirtbag Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: markham ontario canada Posts: 526 Representing:	should trade hedo for outlaw and rudy, portland gets what they want and we get 2 for 1. TADA we got one more for the bench!!!!

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Superjudge is pounding the rock! Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 17,593 Representing:	No offence, but who gives a flying fuck what this Dude is writing. Do I care if he, in his infinite NBA wisdom doesn't support colangelo signing the best player available in 2009???? Honestly, is this guy telling me, that if we brought the NBA camera's to record he and Colangelo debating thew Toronto Roster, and his decisions, he'd be raring to go???? I sure as fuck hope so, because to be honest, nothing woul dplease me more than to see some internet blogger wannabe get put solidly in his place. What a croack of shit..... "While I DO NOT IN ANY WAY support the signing of Turkoglu (as reviewed in this article here)" Good for you big fella, I'll let ya know when Bryan is ready to ask you for your expert opinion.

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macs upset that he is forced to write something here Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: The centre of the universe Posts: 699 Representing:	SJ, you're a very angry man.

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tommysdu 'twas a dream teenage dirtbag Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: markham ontario canada Posts: 526 Representing:	people should stop talking about whether or not they like Hedo, hes going to be a Raptor. End of story!!!

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tommysdu 'twas a dream teenage dirtbag Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: markham ontario canada Posts: 526 Representing:	BC has to sign Hedo, he can't go back to Marion. Marion is most likly pissed off at BC for not signing him, and if BC changes his mind Marion is going to ask for a crazy amount. So the only option left if not sign Hedo is just sign Delfino and Parker. BC will not be able to leave his office alive if he does that.