The "System"
Old 07-18-2012, 12:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hello.

Hope you're all well today, I'm am well, thank you for wondering.

So My thread, "The System". An idea I got reading a post recently, something about a player figuring out how to play in our "System".

It got me thinking...I hear a lot about this "System", been hearing about it ever since Casey showed up, I guess I never heard it before as previous Coaches didn't have a "system", or, more believable, it just hadn't become a silly interweb catch word overused and never really understood. So I though I would ask you guys, exactly what is Toronto's "System"?

Now humour me here, I'm not as smart as most of you guys, or so I'm told so I most likely will need something a bit more descriptive than "Toronto plays hard defense" because I would imagine it's much more complex than that, Toronto's "System". Please, if anyone can help me that would be cool, because as it sits now, I find myself getting angry everytime I read the word, subconsciously I think, as again, I am not quite sure what posters here are referring to as our "System".

Why do I ask you might wonder, aside from the obvious? Well, mostly so I can begin to understand the crack Scouting reports I read here all the time abou tplayers, their "skillset", "ceiling", "motor", and "potential" and how these characteristics fit into Toronto's "system". It's important for me to understand you people because I like this messageboard, and think I would greatly benefit from understanding this highly technical information. Without such knowledge or Toronto's "System", how wil I ever truly know who is really going to "flourish in our system", or, is obviously terribly suited for, again, our "system".

Can you guys please help, especially the guys that seem to use the word on every post, you I would assume are the guys that know ,most thoroughly and accurately what Toronto's "System" is. I would really appreciate it guys. Thanks.
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Old 07-18-2012, 12:36 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Here's a recent interview with DC that kinda touches on this a little.

TrueHoop TV: Dwane Casey - ESPN Video - ESPN

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Old 07-18-2012, 12:41 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Old 07-18-2012, 12:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Hello.

Hope you're all well today, I'm am well, thank you for wondering.

So My thread, "The System". An idea I got reading a post recently, something about a player figuring out how to play in our "System".

It got me thinking...I hear a lot about this "System", been hearing about it ever since Casey showed up, I guess I never heard it before as previous Coaches didn't have a "system", or, more believable, it just hadn't become a silly interweb catch word overused and never really understood. So I though I would ask you guys, exactly what is Toronto's "System"?

Now humour me here, I'm not as smart as most of you guys, or so I'm told so I most likely will need something a bit more descriptive than "Toronto plays hard defense" because I would imagine it's much more complex than that, Toronto's "System". Please, if anyone can help me that would be cool, because as it sits now, I find myself getting angry everytime I read the word, subconsciously I think, as again, I am not quite sure what posters here are referring to as our "System".

Why do I ask you might wonder, aside from the obvious? Well, mostly so I can begin to understand the crack Scouting reports I read here all the time abou tplayers, their "skillset", "ceiling", "motor", and "potential" and how these characteristics fit into Toronto's "system". It's important for me to understand you people because I like this messageboard, and think I would greatly benefit from understanding this highly technical information. Without such knowledge or Toronto's "System", how wil I ever truly know who is really going to "flourish in our system", or, is obviously terribly suited for, again, our "system".

Can you guys please help, especially the guys that seem to use the word on every post, you I would assume are the guys that know ,most thoroughly and accurately what Toronto's "System" is. I would really appreciate it guys. Thanks.
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Actually, I believe Casey's "system" (whatever that might be) was seriously lacking offensively - as in, either not having a lot of plays or not having good enough players to execute them well or not having enough practice time to implement them properly.

Defensively, Raps' current coaching staff appears to subscribe to the "pack the paint" philosophy while preaching personal responsibility and effort and at least attempting to get out to the three-point shooters.

I will let the people "in the know" add the finer points.
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Old 07-18-2012, 12:45 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Oh Excellent Vid Jeffy, thanks!

So far, I'm hearing from Coach Casey, that:

- no player in the NBA can guard a good NBA player one on one
- there are positional rules on defence that are non-negotiable.
- in order to play in Casey's system, a player must be disciplined and is held accountable for what he does or doesn't do.
- Pound 1300 pound Rock.

Ok so then so far, Jeff has taught m that Our system is knowing where you are supposed to be on defence, trying hard, and being held accountable for your actions. Yep, sounds like a system to me, it's called "Playing Defence". I like it!!!!

We need more though...excellent start however Jeff, thanks brother!
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Old 07-18-2012, 12:46 PM   #6 (permalink)
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sarcastic much!?
Roll with it, this will be a good thread for us all.
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Old 07-18-2012, 12:47 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Oh Excellent Vid Jeffy, thanks!

So far, I'm hearing from Coach Casey, that:

- no player in the NBA can guard a good NBA player one on one
- there are positional rules on defence that are non-negotiable.
- in order to play in Casey's system, a player must be disciplined and is held accountable for what he does or doesn't do.
- Pound 1300 pound Rock.

Ok so then so far, Jeff has taught m that Our system is knowing where you are supposed to be on defence, trying hard, and being held accountable for your actions. Yep, sounds like a system to me, it's called "Playing Defence". I like it!!!!

We need more though...excellent start however Jeff, thanks brother!
See, and I've done my 'xplainin' without watching that video, going only by the games I've seen them play. :-P
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Oh Excellent Vid Jeffy, thanks!

So far, I'm hearing from Coach Casey, that:

- no player in the NBA can guard a good NBA player one on one
- there are positional rules on defence that are non-negotiable.
- in order to play in Casey's system, a player must be disciplined and is held accountable for what he does or doesn't do.
- Pound 1300 pound Rock.

Ok so then so far, Jeff has taught m that Our system is knowing where you are supposed to be on defence, trying hard, and being held accountable for your actions. Yep, sounds like a system to me, it's called "Playing Defence". I like it!!!!

We need more though...excellent start however Jeff, thanks brother!
even if we admit that the "system" is simply playing defence, then signing players who are good at D means they will fit this "system."
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Old 07-18-2012, 12:48 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Oh Excellent Vid Jeffy, thanks!

So far, I'm hearing from Coach Casey, that:

- no player in the NBA can guard a good NBA player one on one
- there are positional rules on defence that are non-negotiable.
- in order to play in Casey's system, a player must be disciplined and is held accountable for what he does or doesn't do.
- Pound 1300 pound Rock.

Ok so then so far, Jeff has taught m that Our system is knowing where you are supposed to be on defence, trying hard, and being held accountable for your actions. Yep, sounds like a system to me, it's called "Playing Defence". I like it!!!!

We need more though...excellent start however Jeff, thanks brother!
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even if we admit that the "system" is simply playing defence, then signing players who are good at D means they will fit this "system."
Don't get off topic Parakeet, were till trying to completely identify the "system". This could take a while.
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Don't get off topic Parakeet, were till trying to completely identify the "system". This could take a while.
oh yes, sorry, went waaaaay off topic there!

(you're good at nick-names.)
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OK, So further review of Coach Casey's words on the "system", pertaining to offence:

- in our "system", we have to get away from stereotypical positions.
- Players can no longer be referred to as 1,2,3,4, or 5. They have to referred to as Basketball players.

Now this is where it gets complicated because basically this is in reference to the evolution of the game, where bigger and taller players are learning to play the skilled positions of 1,2,3. It creates, and correct me if I'm wrong, a situation where players with exceptionally high basketball intelligence levels are key, but who also have the bodies to match up.

So basically, our offensive "System", is to be smarter, better, faster, and taller. Hmm...I think I'm starting to get it now.
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oh yes, sorry, went waaaaay off topic there!

(you're good at nick-names.)
I honestly always think Parakeet when i read your name...hahaha
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OK, So further review of Coach Casey's words on the "system", pertaining to offence:

- in our "system", we have to get away from stereotypical positions.
- Players can no longer be referred to as 1,2,3,4, or 5. They have to referred to as Basketball players.
when you're typing things in a list with commas you should put a space after each one!

1, 2, 3, 4 and 5.
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that is not my "system", typing in general was left out of my "system", you know that.
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Old 07-18-2012, 01:08 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Old 07-18-2012, 01:15 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Important Addition Batman, but how does that translate? It's interesting because it actually does translate from the bottom all the way up, its a very positive mantra.
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Important Addition Batman, but how does that translate? It's interesting because it actually does translate from the bottom all the way up, its a very positive mantra.
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