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Old 05-12-2013, 11:34 AM   #1 (permalink)
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At long last, it appears the fate of Bryan Colangelo will be resolved.

There are those who believe a decision will be made official by as early Monday.

Unofficially, Colangelo’s option year is expected to be picked up, a route many in basketball circles had anticipated in the days leading up to the Raptors’ season finale.


In the absence of an official announcement, there’s been no shortage of speculation surrounding Colangelo and the path new top dog Tim Leiweke wants to take a basketball franchise that has missed the post-season for five straight springs, a first for a team that has only advanced beyond the first round only once in its existence.
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Leiweke’s ties in Los Angeles with Phil Jackson raised the spectre of the Zen Master surfacing in Toronto, a connection that keeps getting revisited each time Jackson’s name gets mentioned with any opening around the NBA.

Whether it’s New Jersey, where ex-Raptors assistant P.J. Carlesimo was told his services were no longer required, whether it was in Detroit, where the Pistons turned to Jackson as a consultant to address the team’s coaching vacancy.

On the weekend, Jackson’s name was being linked with Seattle.

Cache aside, it’s hard to glean what exactly Jackson would bring to the Raptors in this rumoured scenario that would see Jackson serve as president.

What the Raptors franchise needs is clarity in the executive suites and results on the hardwood, not exactly the hallmarks that have characterized the club in recent years.

With the NBA’s pre-draft camp set to open in Chicago on Wednesday, the process of connecting the dots is in full swing.

Bell CEO George Cope, who is said to be on Colangelo’s side, was knee deep into CRTC hearings involving the Astral-Bell merger deal.

Leiweke is only beginning to understand the landscape he inherited, but this big-thinking executive must realize no name, regardless of stature, can turn the Raptors overnight.

It’s why the decision to give Colangelo one more year seems so logical that it’s laughable why nothing has been done.

In Boston, Celtics president Danny Ainge told reporters the Raptors had sought permission to speak with assistant Tyronn Lue, who has been out of the NBA long enough to distance himself from players, but at the same time maintain a pulse on today’s modern player.

One of the many issues surrounding the Raptors last season was communication.

Many felt there was a disconnect between the coaching staff and the players, an issue that led to dysfunction.

Lue played the point, a position that was handed over to Kyle Lowry once Jose Calderon was dealt in the three-team deal that landed Rudy Gay.

Colangelo made it abundantly clear in his media availability following the Raptors’ season that Dwane Casey would be back, assuming Colangelo would be back.
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It's a one year option. We need to move on.

It's Wednesday, the prom's Saturday and you're still waiting for that girl you asked 2 weeks ago to figure out if she can find someone better.

Phil Jackson doesn't actually want to come here. So put the reins on B.C's moves and start a plan for 2014 and 2015
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So if Raps make playoffs, More BC and DC after this year...I'm fine with that. I rather not have coaches change every year, and let the team grow together. Instead of having a situation where a long-time player like Bargs leaving saying he had to deal with 2 gms change, and 4 different coaches in 7 years. Or Derozan with three coaches and 2 GMs in 4 years. I like the decision on keeping both BC and DC.
Especially since we've improved and got closer every year. I write of the DC years and Triano's last year as rebuilding years.
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My only fear is that this means we won't be amnestying Bargnani.
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Why would we amnesty bargs? When we can amnesty Kleiza? Atleast Bargs can have a 13 game stretch so we can trade him.
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the main thing that has to happen in the one year, is seeing Leiweke set the tone he talked about setting, and having Colangelo follow through on that, or else. I really dislike the Colangelo under previous ownership, but there it is entirely possible that the Colangelo under this ownership will be another animal entirely. Results will be gauged rather than how any result gets spun and sold, and a path to longterm success will be the only acceptable result.
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Why would we amnesty bargs? When we can amnesty Kleiza? Atleast Bargs can have a 13 game stretch so we can trade him.
Or better yet Kleiza will play like he did in the Olympics and we'll have two All-Star Euro forwards!
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Look at the players on this team and the management and coaches and ask yourself honestly if you can visualize them morphing into a team that can put out the effort and energy seen from the likes of Chicago or Memphis or Golden State or Indiana,or OKC, or is their upside less than the more talented Clippers or Nets or Rockets and the current group would be lucky to only exit the 1st round of the playoffs losing 4-2, let alone 4-1 or 4-0... if they make the playoffs, which may or may not happen. A lock their not.
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Or better yet Kleiza will play like he did in the Olympics and we'll have two All-Star Euro forwards!
Not sure, but I think if he plays like he did in Olympics he'd still be worse than Rudy Gay...
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Look at the players on this team and the management and coaches and ask yourself honestly if you can visualize them morphing into a team that can put out the effort and energy seen from the likes of Chicago or Memphis or Golden State or Indiana,or OKC, or is their upside less than the more talented Clippers or Nets or Rockets and the current group would be lucky to only exit the 1st round of the playoffs losing 4-2, let alone 4-1 or 4-0... if they make the playoffs, which may or may not happen. A lock their not.
They can easily be one of the better teams in the East. They got the potential and talent to do it. Just need an identity and motivation.


I think Casey CAN get that out of them (motivation), if they're able to get more time together and without drama (Lowry vs Casey, Caldy vs Lowry?, Bargs vs the world).

And Casey IS a defensive guy, he's just had troubles finding a balance.
I think next season first thing which will be emphasized in training camp is defense like in his first year. If that DOES happen, we get a clear identity which will be similar to Memphis or Chicago.

Top teams in East:
KNY- But anyone can potentially run at these guys in the playoffs, same goes with Nets-
MIA
CHI
IND
Everyone else you can make an argument we're better than. BKN has got their weird non-motivation issues but they got better talent than we do, depends how they go on after this year. They're a weird team. They don't really have an identity either. Same goes with Rockets or Clippers imo, if you wanna look at the west..

I think the only teams which we have 0 chance against unless injuries to key players are CHI, IND(they sometimes forget how to play basketball), MIA.
4-2 against them for most, if not all teams in the East, is a pretty good year. Talkin about next year.

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They can easily be one of the better teams in the East. They got the potential and talent to do it. Just need an identity and motivation. Which I think Casey CAN get that out of them (motivation), if they're able to get more time together and without drama (Lowry vs Casey, Caldy vs Lowry?, Bargs vs the world).
And Casey IS a defensive guy, he's just had troubles finding a balance, but I think next season first thing which will be emphasized in training camp is defense like in his first year. If that DOES happen, we get a clear identity which will be similar to Memphis or Chicago.
KNY- But anyone can potentially run at these guys in the playoffs, same goes with Nets-
MIA
CHI
IND
Everyone else you can make an argument we're better than. BKN has got their weird non-motivation issues but they got better talent than we do... depends how they go on after this year. They're a weird team. They don't really have an identity either. Same goes with Rockets or Clippers imo, if you wanna look at the west..
I think the only teams which we have 0 chance against unless injuries to key players are CHI, IND(they sometimes forget how to play basketball), MIA.
4-2 against them, for most if not all teams in the league, is a pretty good year.

Standard Raptors fan... low expectations, which may or not get met.

Colangelo has milked that attitude for years.
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Standard Raptors fan... low expectations, which may or not get met.

Colangelo has milked that attitude for years.
Am I expecting low, or being realistic. Ask yourself that since you feel like we should be running for a championship against Lebron, or Derrick Rose. No matter who is our GM or Coach, no way in fucking hell would we beat INDY, CHI, or MIA next season. Be realistic. Typical/standard Raptors fan being unhappy with the team no matter what.
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My only fear is that this means we won't be amnestying Bargnani.
I'd rather they trade Bargnani. Even if it's for a pick and an expiring. He does have some value.
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It's a one year option. We need to move on.

It's Wednesday, the prom's Saturday and you're still waiting for that girl you asked 2 weeks ago to figure out if she can find someone better.

Phil Jackson doesn't actually want to come here. So put the reins on B.C's moves and start a plan for 2014 and 2015
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Am I expecting low, or being realistic. Ask yourself that since you feel like we should be running for a championship against Lebron, or Derrick Rose. No matter who is our GM or Coach, no way in fucking hell would we beat INDY, CHI, or MIA next season. Be realistic. Typical/standard Raptors fan being unhappy with the team no matter what.
You're expecting low. But that's a choice that's up to you. Mentioning "realistic" is just your security blanket.

Stop assuming what I'm feeling or thinking as the basis for your rebuttal, because you would be wrong.

The lower the bar you set, the lower the results you get. The higher the bar, the higher the results. You might fail in either case, but I'd much rather fail at a higher expectation.
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I'd rather they trade Bargnani. Even if it's for a pick and an expiring. He does have some value.
If that's the case, of course it would be my preference. In fact, I would love it if we could get something like Humpries (expiring) + Brooklyn 22nd Pick for Bargs. However, if we don't get a good deal, I would hate to keep him for another year and further handicap us financially.
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I think no matter what BC will not be back next year, unless him and Tim become best friends I doubt he wants BC back
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If that's the case, of course it would be my preference. In fact, I would love it if we could get something like Humpries (expiring) + Brooklyn 22nd Pick for Bargs. However, if we don't get a good deal, I would hate to keep him for another year and further handicap us financially.
Here's hoping. Hump helps you in the playoff drive and then that 22nd pick along with Hump or another asset could move you up in that awesome draft the following year.

Bargnai's not Kwame Brown, but it's just sad that his value has plummeted around the league.
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BC + DC = tanking anyway


Wise choice to me.
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It's a one year option. We need to move on.

It's Wednesday, the prom's Saturday and you're still waiting for that girl you asked 2 weeks ago to figure out if she can find someone better.

Phil Jackson doesn't actually want to come here. So put the reins on B.C's moves and start a plan for 2014 and 2015
No surprise. I don't know if Phil wants to come here or not but the idea for him to take over the Kings - where ever they land, Sacramento / Seattle - might be enticing for any owner to hang his hat on. He can shape that team in his image. Regardless of what Phil does I'm glad we can move on.

As for Bargs....well, if he does well over seas I can see BC keeping him till the trade deadline to see if he can work - yep, heard it before but I suspect we'll see it again. I can see DC attempting small ball with 4 on the perimeter - KL, DD, RG, and AB with JV as the anchor. Or have Amir start and go inside out with AB first off the bench. I would think it has it's appeal to management as it takes the pressure off of AB - as he would become a 3rd or 4th option with allowances for when he gets hot - and he team could use both styles.

Although BC may pull a bunny out of his hat with some kind of trade but I don't think so.
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