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Old 08-01-2008, 05:25 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Is Orlando going to have any financial ability to sign Bosh?
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Old 08-01-2008, 06:17 PM   #22 (permalink)
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LOL so silly. Historic precedent show that, by and large, superstars generally stay with their teams.

Tim Duncan was sooo bound for Orlando nearly a decade ago, everyone thought. He'd go there with Grant Hill's broken leg and Tracy McGrady's traitor ass. Only he came to his senses and stayed with the Spurs. That worked out OK.

There are countless other examples. Is LeBron leaving Cleveland? Maybe. Is DWade gonna go? Maybe, maybe not. Is Bosh a goner? Possibly, but then again probably not.

Home teams can offer more money, and are often one of only a handful of teams with money to sign free agents. Some players are loyal and don't want to desert their teams.
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It would be fleeing. That's what professional athletes do in Toronto...flee. They think they're in a shitty market situated in some dark, smelly corner of the world no one they care about cares about. He'd never pull a Vince (speaking of dark, smelly corners) but I bet he flees.
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Old 08-01-2008, 06:50 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Bosh and Dwight would be the perfect 1-2 punch in the frontcourt. Like Tim Duncan and David Robinson were.

It is way to early to be talking about this unless you're the Nets
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Is Orlando going to have any financial ability to sign Bosh?
No, not unless cb wants to go to a new team, new environment and new system, all for less money. Their expiring contracts that year are worth less than Jermaine's contract by itself.
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Old 08-01-2008, 07:37 PM   #26 (permalink)
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The guy who wrote this article is blowing stuff out his ass. He has no sources and is purely speculating. When Chris was set to be a restricted free agent a lot of people in the media in the U.S. were pulling this same shit. Their reasoning must be "Wow, this guy is good...Why would a good player want to play in Canada? Damn their low gun violence, low crime rate and socialize health system!"

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No, not unless cb wants to go to a new team, new environment and new system, all for less money. Their expiring contracts that year are worth less than Jermaine's contract by itself.
Good point. The Raptors can offer him more money and an extra year more than anyone else. The only way I see him not resigning is:

a.) The Raptors totally screw him over some how

or

b.) The man blows his knee out or some other game changing injury, somebody else takes a chance a drops a big offer on the table and the Raptors walk away from it.

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Is Orlando going to have any financial ability to sign Bosh?
No but the guy who wrote this obviously didn't think it through...

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Old 08-01-2008, 08:30 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Besides, Orlando already has the gigantic, and long-term, contracts of Howard and Lewis, so why would they want a third huge contract for a big man. Also, they would likely have to give up Turkoglu, as he is their biggest expiring, and I am sure that they have no intentions to do that.

As far as the west goes, what team needs a power forward/center and has the money to sign Bosh and can also offer him the opportunity to be a franchise player, all while being a team that can contend for the conference finals? I can't find any.

Of course, we should really consider that this is probably just some overly early speculation. Otherwise, Mariotti wouldn't be using Orlando and the western conference as the places that Chris is most likely to "flee" to. He may be (relatively) ignorant towards Toronto sports, but he isn't stupid.
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:44 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I think they would gladly pay the luxury tax to pair Howard, Lewis and Bosh together but the fact remains that they can't offer as much and they would need the Raptors for a sign and trade. At the end of the day Orlando has little of interest outside Howard and Lewis. Hedo isn't gonna cut it.
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Old 08-01-2008, 10:47 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Bosh and Dwight would be the perfect 1-2 punch in the frontcourt. Like Tim Duncan and David Robinson were.

It is way to early to be talking about this unless you're the Nets
Or Bosh and Jermaine O'Neal?
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Old 08-01-2008, 11:48 PM   #30 (permalink)
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For the past month the show "Around the Horn" has been on tsn around 5:30pm. Jay Mariotti has been one of the sports writers on the show giving their opinion on recent sports news. And if anyone watches the show they know its sports writers giving their opinion on a subject and Jay Mariotti's opinion is usually bias and rejected by the other sports writers. When the other sports writers reject his opinion he jokes around and kind of causes a little commotion. I would say that Jay Mariotti is just stating the obvious that Lebron James and Dwanye Wade will be gone from their respective teams after 2010, but i think hes just trying to get some news about Bosh moving to Orlando because Bosh and Howard are good friends. He needs to get some legitimate arguments before stating anything about Bosh heading to Orlando or any other team in the west.
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Old 08-02-2008, 12:33 AM   #31 (permalink)
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Most American broadcasters/writers think stars will always flee from Toronto as if it were like playing in Memphis,Atlanta or another shit market. The fact is i heard quite a few broadcasters say that Toronto wasn't going to be able re-sign Calderon (last February) in the off season.And i remember them saying Vince wasn't going to re-sign in '01.And unfortunatly he did ,for 6 years.

Americans will always think nobody wants to come and play in Toronto.They have to realize at some point that it is one of the top 10 places in the NBA to play.But it won't happen until they win a couple playoff rounds and start contending.Even if that happens,they will always assume players will "flee" Toronto.
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Old 08-02-2008, 12:34 AM   #32 (permalink)
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orlando will be in the luxury tax for well into the next decade ... they will never have cap space until lewis runs out. Unless they want to trade howard for bosh, it's impossible for make a run at bosh.

And generally speaking, there's a reason you see very few superstars changin teams. There are only two ways for a team to acquire a max contract player, free agency and trades. And there is only one reason for a superstar to "flee" - underperformance. Since no good team will ever be 25% under the cap space (so they can give a max contract), the only *realistic" way is to sign and trade.

What this makes it so clear is that it's extremely unlikely for a superstar to enter free agency. If a superstar is unhappy, he will do this: first sign a max term, max money contract. Then, after a year or two, start asking for a sign and trade. If the team won't give it to you, then you go to media and slowly you force their hand.

What this means for us is that we can't really lose Chris Bosh through free agency, only through a sign and trade. And that sign and trade will only happen sometime in 2011 or after.

To be honest, I don't even remember the last young superstar who became a free agent ...
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i dunno why people write such useless articles based on pure BS and speculation.
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Here's more talk about Bosh to Orlando from RealGM. The main reason they have for Bosh going to ORL would be that he is friends with Dwight, which really isn't much of a reason so I don't think its likely to happen. Its flattering that these guys are dreaming about getting Bosh tho.

Link here: http://magic.realgm.com/articles/66/...lando_in_2012/

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Bosh To Orlando In 2010? Several days ago, the Chicago Sun-Times' Jay Mariotti wrote an article that listed possible destinations for the free agency class' top stars. He reports that in 2010, "[Chris] Bosh will flee Toronto and look at Orlando and Western Conference teams."

While brief, that statement got me thinking. Why wouldn't Bosh want to come play for the Magic?

With Dwight Howard, Rashard Lewis, Jameer Nelson, Mickael Pietrus, and Courtney Lee being the only players locked up through the 2010-2011 season, the Magic could afford the big man.

Combined, Orlando's total committed salary sits at $49,990,263. Compare this to Boston's cap numbers last season ($78,019,509) and you can see that anything is possible. (Sorry KG, I had to.)

Now let's take a look at some other things that could factor into Bosh's decision.

First of all, it is well known that he and Dwight Howard have been close friends ever since they bonded while playing for Team USA in 2006.

"After we talked I saw he was a lighthearted guy, he loves joking, and he just plays hard on the court. He's my good friend," said Bosh.

Upon securing the sixth seed in the Eastern Conference as well as a playoff matchup against Howard and the Magic last year, Bosh joked that he would "tell [Dwight] I'm really excited to be coming down there, and to open up his home, let me visit."

But this isn't just about two friends having fun together. Both players know that their skill sets complement one another perfectly.

Chris Bosh is a finesse player with a silky smooth jump shot and an arsenal of offensive moves. Dwight Howard is an athletic freak who relies on his power and physical gifts to force the ball through the basket.

Bosh is a long and lanky forward who can hit circus shots while drawing fouls. Howard is a ripped, powerful center for whom defenses have no answer other than to foul him or try their best not to let him get position in the paint (which is much easier said than done).

Put these two in the same front court and the opposition is going to have problems.

In the playoff matchup between Toronto and Orlando, Howard single handedly won games for the Magic (he averaged 23 PPG, 18.2 RPG, and 3.8 BPG throughout the series) while Bosh's efforts (an impressive 24 PPG, 9 RPG, 3.6 APG during the five games) kept his team close to Orlando.

Not to mention Orlando will still have Rashard Lewis spreading the floor and scoring at will from the wing position. We've seen some pretty talented trios in the NBA recently but Howard, Bosh, and Lewis may take the cake.

Just in case Orlando's potential, playing with his buddy Dwight, and the good weather we have here in Florida aren't enough to entice the young star, there's more.

He can make more money playing for the Magic because the state of Florida has no state income taxes. So if he gets an offer from another team that looks of equal value, keep in mind he'll still be making more if he's donning blue and silver.

Another thing that will help Orlando in their push for Bosh is that Dallas (the forward's hometown) won't have the money in 2010 to pursue a big name free agent of Bosh's stature.

As of right now, they have $65,527,724 committed amongst six players. In comparison, Orlando's total salary for this upcoming season will be $66,576,798 split amongst 12 players. Basically, the Mavericks will barely have the money to fill out their roster, let alone splurge on an up and coming star.

The Magic seem to have all of the ingredients necessary to lure Bosh to "The Happiest Place on Earth." Cap space, good weather, Dwight's begging, no income tax, and little competition from Chris' hometown team could all play a role in Bosh bolting from Toronto to the Sunshine State.

While the 2010 offseason is still 23 months away, Magic fans will surely be waiting in anticipation to see whether or not these two good friends will someday form a spectacular one-two punch that would instantly turn Orlando into a championship contender.
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Pure speculation. Bosh is also friends with TJ and Jack but I don't hear rumors of him landing in Indiana. He's good friends with Aldridge but I don't he rumors of him going to Portland. He's friends with Bron but I'm not hearing Cleveland.

In all the above article it doesn't mention whats in it for the Raptors. Bosh is a good honest guy. If he plans to not re-sign with the Raptors he's going to give them heads up on that. If he doesn't there will be few teams out there who would be able to fit him in under the cap and Orlando isn't one of them. For a good team to get Bosh they will need a sign and trade and at that point the Raptors are in the drivers seat just as much as Bosh.
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Hi Guys!

Hope you all are doin well

First of all some of you now that Orlando and Toronto are my favs teams.

But come on, this is only speculation and a silly one in my opinion. Why should Chris should leave? It is his town, his team, he is the captain, we will get a lot more money here, have the chance to be something special and the Raps will do all to keep him.

Also with Andrea getting better ( I hope ) and Jose he will have great players around him. Hopefully JO will be another of them. Also the team has hustle guys like Jamario.

So there is no reason imo to leave such a good city, people and organisation like Toronto

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Another thing that will help Orlando in their push for Bosh is that Dallas (the forward's hometown) won't have the money in 2010 to pursue a big name free agent of Bosh's stature.

As of right now, they have $65,527,724 committed amongst six players. In comparison, Orlando's total salary for this upcoming season will be $66,576,798 split amongst 12 players. Basically, the Mavericks will barely have the money to fill out their roster, let alone splurge on an up and coming star.

The Magic seem to have all of the ingredients necessary to lure Bosh to "The Happiest Place on Earth."
Okay then, the Magic have all of the ingredients to lure him them, but away from the Mavs, not us. Chris, along with most of the other stars in the league, don't play for their hometown. It really doesn't matter if the Magic can get him away from Dallas anyway. He plays for the Toronto Raptors, and is was never expected to go to the Mavericks.

On a more serious note, come on people, we seriously need to stop worrying. This is completely and totally unsolicited speculation by an American sportscaster. Sure, there is a good chance of Chris leaving Toronto after the 2010 offseason, but that isn't for two more years, which is much too early for us or anyone other "expert analyst" to be deciding where our, or anyone else's, players are going. We should just enjoy the team that we have now, and more importantly, stop worrying!
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A good chance of him leaving? I don't see any indicators of that.
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I am very glad to be leaving Toronto myself for a while. Only a week. But I can only hope that is long enough for this kind of shit to stop, until the next three-game losing skid at least.

Here's another one to go at while I'm away - Sam is on the hot seat and is sure to be fired by December 1st!:tongue2:
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