Steve Kyler: Raptors have their eyes on Ilyasova and Dragic?
Old 04-12-2012, 03:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Who, in your opinion, should be the top draft and FA targets for Raps in the offseason?

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The draft?… Michael Kidd-Gilchrist… free agents, hearing they have eyes for Ersan İlyasova and Goran Dragic
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Ilyasova only makes sense if we get rid of Kleiza, Davis, and Amir. He's at his best when he's at the 4.
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Ilyasova only makes sense if we get rid of Kleiza, Davis, and Amir. He's at his best when he's at the 4.
You amnesty Kleiza or Amir......and then trade the other one of the two or Davis along with Jose?

Davis + Jose + future pick can probably get us a decent deal. Then you sign Dragic/Ilyasova.
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Noo, not Ilyasova.
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Noo, not Ilyasova.
Why not?

He's a 24yr old who is averaging 13/9 and can play D. We could do worse. The only thing i don't get it why another PF? This is why i think this is BS. Dragic on the other hand is a player we're likely very interested in.
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Love Both players. And if they come here, it would make Jose and Bargnani very expendable. Dragic and Ilyasova are similar to those guys, but they play well baseline to baseline, and would fit well in the Casey mold.
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Just for fun (if we can draft MKG):

Dragic/Jose
Derozan/Forbes
MKG/JJ/Kleiza
Bargs/Ilyasova/Amir/Davis
JV/Amir/Gray?

Now, this would allow us to make trades using Jose, Davis and maybe even Bargnani. And there's always the possibility of using our amnesty. I still think we'll end up with Barnes in the draft though.
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im an Ilyasova fan. kid plays hard.
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Just for fun (if we can draft MKG):

Dragic/Jose
Derozan/Forbes
MKG/JJ/Kleiza
Bargs/Ilyasova/Amir/Davis
JV/Amir/Gray?

Now, this would allow us to make trades using Jose, Davis and maybe even Bargnani. And there's always the possibility of using our amnesty. I still think we'll end up with Barnes in the draft though.
It opens up more trades than just that, remembering that pieces usually come back in trades. It would represent a chance to really build without relying solely on draft picks. I don't get too excited about making use of the free agent market, but this would be a case where it could really lead to some positive things, and not just overpriced band-aids, or bad fits acquired just for the sake of making noise.
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Ilyasova feels like a guy playing for a contract who won't be half as good next season, but I could be wrong.

This also sounds again like Toronto can't get any American players so they have to go for the Euros
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Calderon, Davis, Kleiza for Jennings + Ilyasova?

They get a 10 million dollar expiring PG, their PF of the future and a solid, affordable 3-4.

Throw in a pick and let's make it happen.
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Ilyasova feels like a guy playing for a contract who won't be half as good next season, but I could be wrong.

This also sounds again like Toronto can't get any American players so they have to go for the Euros



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"When I look at it I have to remember that it's a business," said Ilyasova. "Some teams overseas wanted to buyout my contract but I wanted to finish this season in the NBA. This is where I want to be right now, but we will see what happens in the future. Financially, whoever pays me more will be the team that I decide to sign with."
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I think we'd need to trade Derozan first before making that move. Jennings/Derozan together is just asking for us to all pull our hair out next season. Although I like that trade, doubt MIL does it and I wouldnt give up a future 1st for Jennings
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Dragic yes, Ilyasova don't make sense with our forwards
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Ilyasova would be a great get.... Another shooter that plays hard, has length and athleticism.... likely would have to trade Amir though. This team could be drastically better next year.
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Dragic yes, Ilyasova don't make sense with our forwards
It doesn't on the surface but we don't know what trades will be made. If Amir Davis is traded for instance, you can keep Amir and play him as a C/PF off the bench. Obviously if Ilyasova is brought in one or two moves involving our Bigs would have to be made.

But a combination of Bargs, Ilyasova, Joval, Amir or Davis, Gray? would be pretty solid depth.
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It doesn't on the surface but we don't know what trades will be made. If Amir Davis is traded for instance, you can keep Amir and play him as a C/PF off the bench. Obviously if Ilyasova is brought in one or two moves involving our Bigs would have to be made.

But a combination of Bargs, Ilyasova, Joval, Amir or Davis, Gray? would be pretty solid depth.
Hmm I'm pretty sure BC will move 2 of Davis & JJ or Amir & Klieza...
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Hmm I'm pretty sure BC will move 2 of Davis & JJ or Amir & Klieza...
I also wouldn't doubt he uses amnesty on one of Kleiza or Amir, unless he doesn't get a satisfactory return on any potential Jose deal. In which case he may use it on him.
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