Starting 5.... 08-09 vs 09-10
Old 12-02-2009, 02:12 AM   #1 (permalink)
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So much bull shit flying around as expected I guess when our team are not winning basketball games. So much talk about how we are under achieving with all the new talent we have this year. You read on here get rid of Jose , Bargs , Bosh, ...Hedo was over paid and lazy etc. etc. etc. I say bullshit.... it is what it is right now.

So lets go back to what everyone was crying about last year. Just in case most have forgotton the cry on this site was we needed to upgrade at the 2 spot and the 3 spot.So lets go back to last year and see who we had as our starting 5 and lets compare it to this years.

08-09

PG- Calderon
SG- Parker
SF- Marion
PF-Bosh
C- Bargs


09-10
PG- Calderon
SG- DD
SF- Turk
PF- Bosh
C -Bargs


Our 08-09 team finished the season with 10 wins and 6 losses. We actually started looking pretty good to finish off the season. All we really had to do was tweak the line up and add a few pieces. We really needed to strengthen our bench play.If we kept Marion and Parker and with all the additions we picked up except Hedo and Beli we are a better team.

I like last years team alot better with Jack coming off the bench. DD coming off the bench, Weems, Evans,Johnson, Rasho, Pops,Banks,o, Byrant. The 08-09 team would have been stronger then our present squad.
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Old 12-02-2009, 02:15 AM   #2 (permalink)
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go build a time machine and tell BC that
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Old 12-02-2009, 02:27 AM   #3 (permalink)
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go build a time machine and tell BC that
hey babyface i take it we finally agree on something lol
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Old 12-02-2009, 05:36 AM   #4 (permalink)
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hey babyface i take it we finally agree on something lol
you think?

because I interpret his post as: this is pointless. with which I would agree
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:19 AM   #5 (permalink)
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So much bull shit flying around as expected I guess when our team are not winning basketball games. So much talk about how we are under achieving with all the new talent we have this year. You read on here get rid of Jose , Bargs , Bosh, ...Hedo was over paid and lazy etc. etc. etc. I say bullshit.... it is what it is right now.

So lets go back to what everyone was crying about last year. Just in case most have forgotton the cry on this site was we needed to upgrade at the 2 spot and the 3 spot.So lets go back to last year and see who we had as our starting 5 and lets compare it to this years.

08-09

PG- Calderon
SG- Parker
SF- Marion
PF-Bosh
C- Bargs


09-10
PG- Calderon
SG- DD
SF- Turk
PF- Bosh
C -Bargs


Our 08-09 team finished the season with 10 wins and 6 losses. We actually started looking pretty good to finish off the season. All we really had to do was tweak the line up and add a few pieces. We really needed to strengthen our bench play.If we kept Marion and Parker and with all the additions we picked up except Hedo and Beli we are a better team.

I like last years team alot better with Jack coming off the bench. DD coming off the bench, Weems, Evans,Johnson, Rasho, Pops,Banks,o, Byrant. The 08-09 team would have been stronger then our present squad.
Are you high? Those 10 wins were mostly against really shitty teams. The team we currently have is alot deeper. Plus you can't have it both ways by saying you like last years team, but only with the additions of Weems, Jack, Johnson etc......

If you're gonna compare rosters don't combine the two at all. Keep Ukic, Krapono, Graham and the other crap we had last season and compare the two.
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:43 AM   #6 (permalink)
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They do miss Marion a lot.
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Old 12-02-2009, 10:55 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Are you high? Those 10 wins were mostly against really shitty teams. The team we currently have is alot deeper. Plus you can't have it both ways by saying you like last years team, but only with the additions of Weems, Jack, Johnson etc......

If you're gonna compare rosters don't combine the two at all. Keep Ukic, Krapono, Graham and the other crap we had last season and compare the two.
Jeffrey, first of all you ask me if I am high, the answer is yes I am very high on our team. I hate losing, however I continue to follow our team and hope things will turn around for the better. I use this board to relieve some frustration and to have some fun.

Secondly, you missed my point. We all have ideas and dreams on what is best for the team. I get a chuckle on how everyone wants to play GM, me included.Most of the talk is directed and talked in the future tense while all I wanted to say is lets go back to last year and see if things were done alittle differantly making my delivery in the past tense.

Hopefully you understand what I am saying because I can not simplify it any further for you.It looks like most want to see change on our team team this year, many have hit the panic button......all I say is go back to last year.Look at what we had as our starting 5 . Lets say BC brought them all back, and that BC does not mke the deal for Hedo and Beli but the rest of our additions Jack and company were added on to our roster.I think we would have a better team.We really miss Marion and Parker.
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Without Marion trade no Jarrett Jack. Raps would have had no MLE then.
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Old 12-02-2009, 11:14 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Without Marion trade no Jarrett Jack. Raps would have had no MLE then.
then we'd have roko of the bench (sarcasm)
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Old 12-02-2009, 11:20 AM   #10 (permalink)
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actually if we had kept marion we would have still had the mle. it is triggered when a team is over the cap. we planned to renounce marion, ap, jamario, etc in order to get far enough under the cap to make a free agent acquisition, and it was only the complex s&t that saved the mle for us (because in the s&t we acquired a new player but never had to renounce all of those players and drop below the cap). had we kept those players we would still have had the mle. we would not have been able to add wright and george/belinelli, but we still could have traded delfino/ukic for amir/weems, we still could have used the lle to sign rasho, and we still could have signed jack with the mle. we would have probably been in tax territory, but it could have been done.

i think the big issue was paying marion what he wanted. between dallas and toronto, he would have chosen dallas at the same price point. we would have had to overpay him long term to keep him here.
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Old 12-02-2009, 11:22 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Without Marion trade no Jarrett Jack. Raps would have had no MLE then.
Do your home work again ..u will find that u r incorrect. Review the process.
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Old 12-02-2009, 11:23 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Fuck guys, Marion did not want to stay here....
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Old 12-02-2009, 11:27 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Never been big on homework.

But I concur, trane's post is pretty clear, my bad.
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Old 12-02-2009, 01:23 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Fuck guys, Marion did not want to stay here....
Bingo. I know most people like to say, how do you know that?? The fact is it was pretty obvious early in the spring-summer that we would have had to overpay big time for him. Alot more then Dallas, if the $$ amount was close he would chosen Dallas.
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Old 12-02-2009, 01:54 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Marion wanted too many years, and he's too old for that
I wanted Marion too, and I would have payed 10 for him, but oy for 3 years. He wanted 5 instead. Two years from now Marion will be deadweight. Wihout his legs he's basically useless.
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